Shot this at a workshop with Model Charlie

K7 and DA*50-135 -
Lighting setup - 1 Quantum flash with beauty dish straight in front and 45 degrees high / white reflector / black barn doors on both sides / quantum flash on white background. (Obviously the lights are not mine, just provided by the workshop!

What do you think?

[IMG]http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u332/nathanever82/Charlie1.jpg[/IMG]

I think that the question of 'what is the limit of digital manipulation' not only can't have a definitive answer, but shouldn't. Because art is for arts sake, and because human interpretation is limitless, and taste is not an objective measure.

in the moment you click the shutter, having the image recorded on a digital sensor, that is already digital art. (the various parameters and settings of the camera already influence the photographic outcome)

I have already explained why on pentaxuser you see less photoshop in my previous posts - so I will not re-state it.

Also, its obvious that many nikon and canon users are amateurs.
"If all hippos are animals, and some animals are penguins, all penguins must be hippos? " (simple IQ test question to describe your statement)

DOn, exactly my point.

In fact in film days, it was much more 'elitarian' to be a professional. Both because the equipment was harder to buy/maintain and because the knowledge of working in a darkroom was far superior than today's working on photoshop.

A pro in film days would have known how to process film, make negatives, expose them in the enlarger, and then process the prints to achieve a final result. and any manipulation throughout this 3 hours process (for 1 roll of film) was subjective and prone to manipulation.

I reiterate my position which is very different from yours.

THere might be a 2% of pentax users who are professional photographers. the remaining 98% doesn't NEED photoshop for their living, and therefore has a choice of using it or not.

On a much vaster scale, professional photographers generally use canon and nikon cameras, and therefore on those brands' fora, the impact of professional use of photoshop is far greater.

I know what you are saying Tony,

but very often the conversation on post processing is on the topic of photographic purity vs digital manipulation, and the moral/artistic effects and personal opinions on these.

I am quite convinced that digital photography must be post processed to some extent, much like film ALWAYS needed darkroom manipulation unless the photographer was an amateur, and would let a lab develop all their photos.

Therefore the conversation is not 'who likes images to be pure and simple vs. who likes pictures to be a product of photoshop magic" - but rather, Because we all need pp in our digital imaging, 'who is a keen amateur and will learn just for fun, vs. who is a professional and needs to provide standards of photographs that are only achievable through post production manipulation' (of any kind, being filters or cropping or retouching).

I think this forum speaks little about photoshop because the vastest majority of members are not professional photographers that make a living out of photography.

When you have all the time in the world to compose, plan, study your images before shooting, (like an amateur photographer does) obviously the result will be a better one that if one doesn't have the practical time to produce photographs. A wedding photographer will need - on top of his experience in composing, capturing, being creative - also the capability of saving a necessary image that for one reason or another is not gone too well.

A fashion/glamour photographer will need photoshop skills for retouching images to the very high standard of business use, and therefore cannot go without providing that service.

This site has very few professionals and therefore the need of photoshop is merely a recreational one (to the largest extent).

Kind regards,
Nathan

I haven't posted much here on pentaxuser recently, but i wanted to thank all those on the PPG that vote, and gave me the great pleasure of seeing some of my favourite street portraits (and others) in the gallery.
Thank you guys!

www.pentaxphotogallery.com/nathanservi

Here are a few of my favourites

[IMG]http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u332/nathanever82/Backstage9rem.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u332/nathanever82/Detail3.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG]http://i517.photobucket.com/albums/u332/nathanever82/MetropolitanManremastered.jpg[/IMG]

Cheers!
Nathan

la vendi? come mai?

stefan, how do you explain this?

"as I said before, on my 8GB INOV8, class 6, SDHC card, I can only record up to 30/40 seconds of video, and then it starts buffering, and shuts the video down. "

???

thank you for all your technical jargon...