m42geo

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Hi Guys

This time is my term to ask your opinions after long discussions regarding the DA* 16-50 yesterday. OK, Lets start with my current set up. I have a FA 31m ltd, M 50mm 1.4, FA 77mm ltd and a DFA 100mm primes

I am happy with all these lenses in term of IQ. I am extremely happy with the sharpness produced by both the 31mm and 77mm. However the 31mm is a bit too wide for human portrait sometimes and the 77mm is a bit too narrow but I do prefer the 77mm for portrait since the bokeh is so creamy and nice. And I can use the bokeh effect to make the subject stand out which is something I can not achieve with the 31mm. I find my M 50mm 1.4 about the right focal length for portrait however I do look some something with auto focus ability now. I know that the FA 50mm 1.4 is the same thing as my M 50mm 1.4 and to me it feels really cheap and like a toy. I am looking for something with good IQ, bokeh as well as good build quality. So I short listed the FA43, DA*55 and the sigma 50mm 1.4 since they are about the same focal length +- 10% from 50mm.

What I really want is to create creamy bokeh effect while maintain sharp IQ for the subject when shooting wide open or large aperture in order to make the subject really stand out in the frame.

Anybody here has experience with these lenses and can make comment on them?

Thanks

Comment by m42geo posted on FA 43mm ltd or Sigma 50mm 1.4 or DA* 55mm 1.4 at 22/06/2011 - 19:37

m42geo
How about DA 21mm?

Comment by m42geo posted on Lens for Street Photography at 22/06/2011 - 04:48

m42geo
Epithet Man wrote:
#4 does it for me.

I'm probably going to have to go to Taiwan for a few days for a business trip - maybe I should take my camera...

EM
Of course, landscape in taiwan is one of the best in asia.

Comment by m42geo posted on Taiwan at 21/06/2011 - 23:25

m42geo
Oh yes,

Just to agree with Fletcher8 about the 31mm

I am very happy with my FA 31mm Ltd. I use it whenever possible. It is a real level up from either the DA*16-50 or the sigma 18-50.

Thanks for everyone debating with me. I hope my comment did not upset anybody today.

Thanks

Comment by m42geo posted on WTB DA* 16-50mm at 21/06/2011 - 23:16

m42geo
Anvh wrote:

Does the sigma also have better contrast, colours and bokeh?

When people talk about IQ it comes mostly down to just sharpness so that's why i ask.
When I did the test I did focus on sharpness, both the sigma and pentax's contrast was good, colour the sigma seems a bit warmer than the pentax, hard to say which colour is better, bokeh the sigma is a little more creamy. But bokeh is hard to compare you know, everyone has different taste.

Comment by m42geo posted on WTB DA* 16-50mm at 21/06/2011 - 23:10

m42geo
George Lazarette wrote:


Fair enough.

I just wanted to ensure that Jasper got the view of real users in real situations, and that view, generally, is that the 16-50 is a considerably better lens than reviews suggest.

Incidentally, I wrote off my 16-50 by dropping it from a great height. I would not have replaced it with another lens otherwise.

G
What lens you using instead of the 16-50 now then?

Comment by m42geo posted on WTB DA* 16-50mm at 21/06/2011 - 22:29

m42geo
Ok George.

I seen many videos on youtube shows how water proof the pentax body and DA* lens are so I though I give it a go. And it failed after 30 mins. So I do not see pentax products as WR anymore. Now I will just take care of my gears better.

Going back to the IQ, yes the pentax is a good lens in most field conditions and if you think the price is fair then maybe we should put it this way the Tamron offer is a bargain.

Please let me point out, I do not mean to piss anyone off who own a DA*16-50 and I just want to point out to Japers45 that there are better offers out there in term of Price/Performance ratio.

At least now I got him to think again before spending £600+ for it while he might able to spend it the way I did, £150 for the 2nd hand sigma 18-50 and then add a 2nd hand sigma 10-20mm for around £200, Still £250 left, god knows where to spend. maybe a good tripod + a 35mm F2.4

you see I done alot with my £600 when I bought all these 2 years ago.

Comment by m42geo posted on WTB DA* 16-50mm at 21/06/2011 - 20:22

m42geo
they look very good. look much better than when I first use flash.

Comment by m42geo posted on First time with flash (and hello) at 21/06/2011 - 19:38

m42geo
George Lazarette wrote:
m42geo wrote:
japers45 wrote:
At £450 I would snap up the 16-50 but £600+ is a bit scary when taking opinions into account.
Seems you know what I was trying to point out now, the 16-50 is not a bad lens at all. Just no way you can comapre with the 50-135. £600 is alot of money for me. Pentax sometimes do overprice their products quite a bit. On the other hand their kit lens are such a bargain, much better than what canon and nikon are offering.
Have you owned a 16-50?

If not, I don't understand why you think you know anything about it. It's a much better lens than you think it is.

G
No, I just borrowed my friend's. I done many test shots. Result is the IQ is they have the same IQ at F2.8, then my sigma performs better at f4-11. That is at the wide end. At 35 and 50mm the sigma performs the pentax at 2.8. But I have to say when both shoot at 2.8 the image produced by the pentax is brighter at the same shutter speed setting. That suggest the pentax might have a larger apeture then my sigma.

By the way my friend's Penatx DA*16-50 also had weather sealing problem under heavy rain.

Of course I never use my sigma in heavy rain condition so I can compare the weather sealing between the two.

Futhermore I tried the tamron 17-50 although on a Nikon d300 body but it perfroms way better than my sigma and the pentax.

Thanks

Comment by m42geo posted on WTB DA* 16-50mm at 21/06/2011 - 19:30

m42geo
Good luck. and please post some samples as soon as you have the lens in your hand. Thanks

Comment by m42geo posted on Thanks for helping me make the choice easy folks... at 21/06/2011 - 18:36

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