But they accumulate don't they Mongoose? I'd like that too, but more lenses is more money, sell lenses and buy more is a good policy , less stuff piling up.

Personally, I like the Samsung lens better, the chequered pattern at least, thats why the WRs look great .

I was watching that one.
The previous version popped up a few days before that. You got the better version according to reviews.
Keep us informed!

I dont really know the specs, but to be honest, and to the best of my knowledge, there are better P&S out there.
Pentax and Nikon aren't really the stars of that arena.
Canon and Panasonic have some cracking offers there (G9/10/11, LX3 and others).
From Pentax, the water proof models seem to be good in their field, second to Canon I'd say.

But this is hear-say, people with experience will give you a better view.

Good luck on your hunting.

I'd definitely choose the WR, better value.

The knowledge curve is ok, the rest are all wrong, no way it ever goes that high. And one exposure per motive never feels better than many (for me).

Isn't this contradicting each other?
Also developing of the photo has always been the part of photography just as much as taking the actual good photo, only because you've greater control and more tools with digital medium all of an sudden people using them are lazy?[/quote]No they aren't contradictory. I should elaborate and restrict my statement:
Photoshop makes *some* people lazier

Photoshop allows you to do things after the shot. Marvellous things you can't do in camera. But it also allows you to correct things that are done in camera. For this reason many stop taking the effort of thinking while taking the photo and leave much to PP. Much can be done in PP, but I cannot abandon the idea that thinking while the shot is taken is a good exercise, which helps get better photos from the start.
This is not to say the photos are better either which way, neither does this giving rise to any questions (to me at least) about whether it is "true photography or not.

There are no standards I-berg, only personal opinions.

Godness me Anvh, if the discussions and endless reading of reviews and the LBA had anything to do with better photography we'd have fantastic portfolios.
With the amount of time I spend every day on photography related websites, I'd have much better material than the sorry lot I churn out from time to time.
No... pure self indulging geekness.
Useful in some part, I'd be lying if Id said it didn't help me explore different aspects of photography and produce better images.

Lets be honest.
Photography is not painting. It is a visual art and can be an expression of creativity, but it was created as a tool to record reality with the greatest fidelity possible.
Most photography asks that you take care to represent reality with clear colours and sharp images.
That said, one can obviously let the imagination run free and create abstract images and distort reality to convey an expression of the imagination.
Blurred images, oversaturation, HDR, long exposures, fast exposures, distorted colours, distorted figures...
All can be done with a camera, lenses, a dark room or photoshop.

Saying that Photoshop kills good photography is saying that good art can only be done with certain tools. So much for creativity and free spirit...
Photoshop makes people lazier. Like painters now not having to make their own paints.

I value a good image whatever the process to make it.
Lots of factors can kill a good image from lack of sharpness to a boring subject.
I don't think its good to concentrate on only one factor though.

I like this because it is a nice image, it is visual attractive, it feels nice to look at (to me).
Originally this was not the image desired, but a mistake revealed something interesting and I exaggerated the mistake.


I like it despite being of focus, despite the flare or the inaccurate exposure.

I'm hungry now...

I've got two in, which is a low acceptance rate within my own selection. I'm happy with it, but when I compare my work to others I see there...

I have pictures waiting to be reviewed for a long time now, so I decided to check the voting (which I didn't even know I could do).
I have voted in many many photos, it never stops, they must have a huge backlog. I was hoping that by voting I would help speed the process along... No luck.

I must say I was actually pleasantly surprised by the quality of the photos. I expected to see much more crap than I did