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Comment by Don posted on ethics.... at 20/12/2009 - 05:24
your backdrop supposed to be white? it looks a little warm on my monitor...
Comment by Don posted on Consistent colour with in a studio environment at 18/12/2009 - 02:11
Aero wrote:
Given that is is an international forum, I think it's important for overseas members to understand that this is not a “British” problem but one that's peculiar to England (and theoretically Wales).
I haven't heard of one similar incident in Scotland, although, from a terrorist's point of view, we host the UK's nuclear submarine fleet, nuclear power stations and the country's busiest RAF fast-jet base. I suspect that the PCSOs at the centre of these incidents would be given short shrift if they approached a photographer in Glasgow in the same way that they apparently do in London.
The message is clear. If you want to come to Britain to take photos, check out the VisitScotland website rather than its equivalent in England. At the end of the day, “they” can take away only the rights we are prepared to surrender to them. It must be said that Scots understand the terrorist threat as well as the English – we've been targeted by them.
To those south of the border involved in one of these incidents, my advice would be to be polite, explain what you are doing and, if necessary, insist on your right to do it. Handled properly, none of these high-profile cases should have progressed as far as it did. Many years ago in Canada, I was confronted by several members of the American Indian Movement pointing Winchester rifles at me. After I explained I was just a journalist doing my job and likening their cause to the lot of the Scots under “hammer” of the English (always a useful ploy), we sat down to some drinks and I got my interview.
Having said that, I don't think I'd take very kindly to some moron asking me why I was doing something I'm perfectly entitled to do. Doubtless I'll find out the next time I venture down to London.
Al
I'm a bit of a simpleton.Given that is is an international forum, I think it's important for overseas members to understand that this is not a “British” problem but one that's peculiar to England (and theoretically Wales).
I haven't heard of one similar incident in Scotland, although, from a terrorist's point of view, we host the UK's nuclear submarine fleet, nuclear power stations and the country's busiest RAF fast-jet base. I suspect that the PCSOs at the centre of these incidents would be given short shrift if they approached a photographer in Glasgow in the same way that they apparently do in London.
The message is clear. If you want to come to Britain to take photos, check out the VisitScotland website rather than its equivalent in England. At the end of the day, “they” can take away only the rights we are prepared to surrender to them. It must be said that Scots understand the terrorist threat as well as the English – we've been targeted by them.
To those south of the border involved in one of these incidents, my advice would be to be polite, explain what you are doing and, if necessary, insist on your right to do it. Handled properly, none of these high-profile cases should have progressed as far as it did. Many years ago in Canada, I was confronted by several members of the American Indian Movement pointing Winchester rifles at me. After I explained I was just a journalist doing my job and likening their cause to the lot of the Scots under “hammer” of the English (always a useful ploy), we sat down to some drinks and I got my interview.
Having said that, I don't think I'd take very kindly to some moron asking me why I was doing something I'm perfectly entitled to do. Doubtless I'll find out the next time I venture down to London.
Al
When I think British, I'm think polite, smart, helpful. Like Mattmatic.
When I think Scotsman, I think scotch, rowdy, fun. Like Galoot.
So forgive my ingnorance, get me some scotch, and plane tickets and I'll fly on over, grab Galoot, get drunk, stage a protest, and call Matt, in the morning when we need some one diplomattmatic to talk us out of a jail cell.
I love this place!
Comment by Don posted on Another Arrest at 18/12/2009 - 02:10
Anvh wrote:
Don you use the robot so your the professional here.
Yes Mike I was.
Like you said it can purely be commercial, not my type of thing though.
Art has many forms though and covers a lot of things so it's hard to say what's art and not.
Still i'm not fully convinced that you need to get paid to call yourself a professional.
Where does the line lies between an expert and a professional for example... is it really only the pay-check?
The government is full of professionals, but how many are actually experts at thier jobs?Don you use the robot so your the professional here.
Yes Mike I was.
Like you said it can purely be commercial, not my type of thing though.
Art has many forms though and covers a lot of things so it's hard to say what's art and not.
Still i'm not fully convinced that you need to get paid to call yourself a professional.
Where does the line lies between an expert and a professional for example... is it really only the pay-check?
Comment by Don posted on OK - so what / who is a Pro ? at 17/12/2009 - 22:36
There was a man who worked for the Post Office...whose job it was to process all the mail that had illegible addresses. One day, a letter came addressed in a shaky handwriting to God. He thought he should open it to see what it was about. The letter read,
Dear God,
I am an 83 year old widow, living on a very small pension. Yesterday someone stole my purse. It had $100 in it, which was all the money I had until my next pension check. Next Sunday is Christmas, and I had invited two of my friends over for dinner. Without that money, I have nothing to buy food with. I have no family to turn to, and you are my only hope. Can you please help me?
Sincerely, Edith
The postal worker was touched. He showed the letter to all the other workers. Each one dug into his or her wallet and came up with a few pounds. By the time he made the rounds, he had collected $96, which they put into an envelope and sent to the woman. The rest of the day, all the workers felt a warm glow thinking of Edith and the dinner she would be able to share with her friends. Christmas came and went. A few days later, another letter came from the old lady to God. All the workers gathered around while the letter was opened, It read.
Dear God,
How can I ever thank you enough for what you did for me? Because of your gift of love, I was able to fix a glorious dinner for my friends. We had a very nice day and I told my friends of your wonderful gift. By the way, there was $4 missing. I think it must have been those thieving bas@#$ds at the Post Office....
Dear God,
I am an 83 year old widow, living on a very small pension. Yesterday someone stole my purse. It had $100 in it, which was all the money I had until my next pension check. Next Sunday is Christmas, and I had invited two of my friends over for dinner. Without that money, I have nothing to buy food with. I have no family to turn to, and you are my only hope. Can you please help me?
Sincerely, Edith
The postal worker was touched. He showed the letter to all the other workers. Each one dug into his or her wallet and came up with a few pounds. By the time he made the rounds, he had collected $96, which they put into an envelope and sent to the woman. The rest of the day, all the workers felt a warm glow thinking of Edith and the dinner she would be able to share with her friends. Christmas came and went. A few days later, another letter came from the old lady to God. All the workers gathered around while the letter was opened, It read.
Dear God,
How can I ever thank you enough for what you did for me? Because of your gift of love, I was able to fix a glorious dinner for my friends. We had a very nice day and I told my friends of your wonderful gift. By the way, there was $4 missing. I think it must have been those thieving bas@#$ds at the Post Office....
Comment by Don posted on Letter to God at 17/12/2009 - 22:25
especially
set your color balance to flash, use a white card and fire off a number of shots in a dark room, and check them for color balance do a series of tests with and without modelling lamps at various power settings... see if they all come out white, and with even exposures.
set your color balance to flash, use a white card and fire off a number of shots in a dark room, and check them for color balance do a series of tests with and without modelling lamps at various power settings... see if they all come out white, and with even exposures.
Comment by Don posted on Consistent colour with in a studio environment at 17/12/2009 - 20:18
mikew wrote:
This thread is like picking at a scab - morbidly fascinating. I keep trying to stop.
Art has little to do with being a pro and earning money - getting paid that's what it's about. Ideally you achieve that simple goal by delivering work of the highest calibre and providing the best possible service. But first getting the commission, then raising the invoice and finally getting the invoice paid is the key then you can eat and real pro/businessman will do what it takes to be paid. Been there, done that outside of photography.
Mike
But I got paid last month to have IT video tape a kids party... hmmmnQuote:
Here's a better question:
I built a robot that can work as a camera platform. It can capture images as good and in some cases better than alot of people I know.
Is it a pro?
Nope because it doesn't have the concept of receiving payment for service.Here's a better question:
I built a robot that can work as a camera platform. It can capture images as good and in some cases better than alot of people I know.
Is it a pro?
This thread is like picking at a scab - morbidly fascinating. I keep trying to stop.
Art has little to do with being a pro and earning money - getting paid that's what it's about. Ideally you achieve that simple goal by delivering work of the highest calibre and providing the best possible service. But first getting the commission, then raising the invoice and finally getting the invoice paid is the key then you can eat and real pro/businessman will do what it takes to be paid. Been there, done that outside of photography.
Mike
Comment by Don posted on OK - so what / who is a Pro ? at 17/12/2009 - 20:12
So if one year you make a decent profit, you're a pro, and the next year, economy slumps, and you find yourself barely clearing expenses, you are now semi-pro? less pro?
Everybody calls your work weird one year, fashion trends change a year later and suddenly your you're the hottest photog in the city so you went from amateur to pro?
all the debates are moot.
You got a business license, you hung up a sign, you charge a fee for your work, you are a pro...
how good you are, and how successful you are, are not relevant to whether or not you are pursuing your work as a pro. The factors people are arguing about, here, may affect how well you do at the profession, but do not bar you from being in the profession.
Here's a better question:
I built a robot that can work as a camera platform. It can capture images as good and in some cases better than alot of people I know.
Is it a pro?
Everybody calls your work weird one year, fashion trends change a year later and suddenly your you're the hottest photog in the city so you went from amateur to pro?
all the debates are moot.
You got a business license, you hung up a sign, you charge a fee for your work, you are a pro...
how good you are, and how successful you are, are not relevant to whether or not you are pursuing your work as a pro. The factors people are arguing about, here, may affect how well you do at the profession, but do not bar you from being in the profession.
Here's a better question:
I built a robot that can work as a camera platform. It can capture images as good and in some cases better than alot of people I know.
Is it a pro?
Comment by Don posted on OK - so what / who is a Pro ? at 17/12/2009 - 18:07
Your strobes (esp budget models) may not be maintaining color consistency from shot to shot, esp if they don't get time to fully recharge and cool between shots...
your modeling lamps may not maintain color consistency if they are dimmed or fluorescent..
ambient light could still be a factor... esp at high iso or if bright enough to affect exposure...
your modeling lamps may not maintain color consistency if they are dimmed or fluorescent..
ambient light could still be a factor... esp at high iso or if bright enough to affect exposure...
Comment by Don posted on Consistent colour with in a studio environment at 17/12/2009 - 16:41
what are you using for lighting?
Comment by Don posted on Consistent colour with in a studio environment at 17/12/2009 - 15:46
Just re-read your original post ...
By "selling purposes" they could mean to sell more space on the park rather than sell the land.
I doubt I stopped anybody from losing thier homes. But I know I didn't help the process along either.
This isn't really a big "right vs wrong" dilema, but having been homeless myself... I guess it's just better for me to pass on this job, and sleep better.