do you mean built in astrotracer?

ah it says (optional) so prob still requires the plug-in unit

If Pentax brought out FF would everyone chill out? I'm not sure they would. There would still be grumbles.

As for Adobe, they are in trouble with this security breach (only 2.9m accounts compromised). I know Red Hat has dropped them from their official repositories too.

Microsoft that's a ship in trouble too. Especially if some of their strong markets come under more pressure like Gaming. Which could happen if this steambox thing is realised.

MS just wanted Nokia to cannibalise the hardware and try to give them a foothold.

Now time to extol the virtues of Linux/open source

Talk of a 55-300mm WR lens with HD coating over at the US forum... Not sure if release will be close to K-3 though

Sounds like a good idea

Hopefully the K-3 will give some exposure.. to itself (K-3) and the brand in gerneral

Pentax K-500 DSLR Camera with DAL 18-55mm Lens Kit - Black (16MP, CMOS APS-C Sensor) 3 inch LCD

Currently £346.45 at Amazon uk with free del...

That is lot of camera for the money (relatively speaking)

Who else can match that?

I disagree.

Surely Pentax K-30/K-50/K-500 smokes any other DSLR at the entry level.

The K-5iis What do the others provide at that price point? When the K-5 was reduced it was super value, nothing came close for 400-450 quid.

The problem is exposure/stigma I think. Pickup a copy of Which? magazine or something.. They always bang on about the same brands.. Pentax offers outstanding VFM IMO, but the problem is getting others to realise that.

And the things about lens choice is a load of ****. Yes theres a couple of things we don't have, but do we really need a choice of 50000 lenses?

The primes Pentax has made are real gems IMO and a big plus point of the system. I also think in built stabilisation is a massive plus. Paying extra for stabilisation on a lens. I'd be furious

Bit of rant.

What I'd like to see though I'm still not sure I'd buy because of price (may end up hunting a K-5 or K-5iis) is:

-built in astrotracer (might be pushing it there )
-slight DR and ISO perf improvement if possible
-quiet shutter
-duals cards would be a bonus

can't think of anything else.. I suspect I would be pretty satisfied by a K-5iis to be honest.. I'm not sure I would max that out so to speak

Quote:

What happens when new top end model comes out?

-An argument as evident here
-Checking of bank balances
-Insatiable lust
-Unrealistic expectations

Its the astrotracer I'm after specifically though

So whats going to be happening to the O-GPS1..?

I'm desperately trying to resist the purchase of a K-5 body + O-GPS1... meanwhile the K-3 is to be announced/released/magicked up soon....

I have a real urge to do night/astro and unfortunately that is probably the K-7's weak area .. otherwise it is an outstanding camera.. hence why I have not parted yet