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That's 'alright!' in Welsh.
I've been pointed in this forum's direction by the kind JohnX (as he's known on PentaxForums) after a query about selling a recently-acquired K-50 (and others)! I'll be sure to join in wherever I can, and thanks in advance for undoubtedly making me feel welcome!
Diolch.
O pa ran o Gymru fach?
Hi, I have seen a lot of discussions on the web extolling the virtues of owning a 50MM prime lens, either a f1.4 or f1.8. I currently have a K3ii with 2 Sigma lenses (10-20 f3.5 and 18-300 f3.5-6.3). Given the kit I already have would it be seen as an advantage to own a 50 prime lens also. Would I see a real difference in picture between the prime and using the 18-300 at 50mm? I have the 18-300 to facilitate travelling light but would not ditch the 10-20 either. My preference is for landscape photography.
Any thoughts and advise would be more than welcome.
Andrew
Like yourself, my main preference is landscape photography, and I also own the Sigma 10-20 (great lens).
However my main "goto" lens is the Pentax 16-85, and anything over 50mm I tend to prefer changing to the Pentax 55-300 PLM (both excellent performers).
My point is that for landscape photography, personally I have never felt that a 50mm prime would be an asset. Price wise I suspect that a used 50mm prime (such as DA50 plastic fantastic), would cost similar to a DA 55-300 (much more versatile).
I traded my DA 55-300 to get the PLM version, and the difference in focusing speed and noise (lack of), is massive.
Some recent examples taken with the 55-300 PLM link
A set with both 16-85 and 55-300 DA (I was amased at how well the 55-300 performed).
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I also previously owned a Tamron 18-250, probably similar to your Sigma 18-300 ; basically a Jack of all trades. I sold this and got a Sigma 18-50 f2.8, great lens, and a DA 55-300.
A huge difference with this combo compared to the Tamron.
My conclusion would be to change the 18-300 for a standard zoom, such as the Pentax 16-85, Sigma 17-50 or Tamron (budget dependant of course).
If funds were still available, go for one of the 55-300 versions (on a K3ii the PLM version is compatible).
Apologies if I`ve gone off topic slightly.
Regards
Adrian
Comment by bychan posted on 50MM PRIME LENS OR NOT at 26/07/2019 - 01:49
Glad to hear that you got the 16-85 repaired.
Good shots, well balanced. For me I like numbers 3 and 4 with good cloud colours and the foreground rock colour.
Paul[/quote
Thanks Paul
[quote:3496ace15f="Lubbyman"]A working 16-85mm is a fine lens to have to hand. Fingers crossed that it doesn't slip back into its old habits. Did you find out the cause of the problem? (Some self-interest here in case mine develops the same trouble...)
No. 2 is my favourite. It has a 3-D feel that isn't so strong in the others (at least with my eyes, glasses and monitor!). Something to do with the colours and textures of the rocks and having less sea in the frame?
Steve
I never got to know what the issue was, but will advise later as to what was done to the lens.
Glad that the lens is now fine. I have this lens and it is a stunner. It used to stick a bit when zooming in very hot conditions but that has fixed itself. It is my third copy as the first was totally dead on arrival - could not focus at all. I sent it straight back to SRS and they sent another. This was decentered, so back it went and I got this one.
I cannot now image not having it, and it has travelled extensively and performed fabulously. It survived a major moment when I fell over on rocks in Thailand and it was zoomed out to 85mm - I smacked its petal hood off the rock leaving the hood scratched, but the lens survived unscathed and works perfectly. I think the hood must have taken all the shock.
I agree in that it is a stunning lens (I opted for this new over a cheaper used 16-50). It`s built like a tank, and thankfully in your experience, proved to be the case
That's good news Adrian - nice piccies
BTW - was it expensive to get sorted?
What I then did was e-mail SRS (from whom I had purchased the lens from), illustrating the issue with example images. I also expressed that under the terms of the Consumers Rights Act 2015, that the lens was not fit for purpose, and that I would expect a £500 lens to "last" longer.
Next day reply from SRS, asking that the lens be sent back to them and they would sort it.
Fast forwards a few weeks and SRS confirmed that they had received the lens back from Pentax France, and it would be back with me in a few days (which it was).
SRS treated it as a warranty repair, and the paperwork from John Pye Technical confirmed that the following work was carried out on the lens:
Calibrate and adjust focusing
Check focus movement
Check and clean body parts
The only cost to me was the initial postage to SRS; the level of service they provided here was incredible (all the superlatives I can think of still seem not enough).
If the lens is not right now, after this, as I commented previously, it never will be.
Taken on the same day, @16mm

Thanks all
Adrian
Comment by bychan posted on Trefor Village Seascapes at 26/07/2019 - 00:47
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It now appears to be okay (if not I doubt it ever will be).
Here are some local seascapes taken with it and the K3 (although not @ 16mm where the original issue was worst).
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Regards
Adrian
Comment by bychan posted on Trefor Village Seascapes at 23/07/2019 - 00:23
I took a few test shots today using the Sigma 10-20; all good and sharp, what a great lens this is.
If fixable and financially viable, great; if not then going back to Sigma seems the most logical option.
Thanks
Adrian
Comment by bychan posted on 16-85 - Portions of Images Blurry at 02/06/2019 - 23:34
I have noticed the blurry over the past months, however the image I posted of the bluebells was taken over two years ago, on a different body, and more annoyingly, whilst still under warranty.
If I were to spend more time trawling through the images taken with the lens, I could well encounter more?
Alan Marlow has confirmed that unfortunately he is unable to help at this time.
I1ll next drop an e-mail to John Pye Technical; my preference would be to get the lens repaired, if possible and within financial reason.
The lens is blemish free, never received any bumps or knocks (which makes it worse somehow).
Regards
Adrian
Comment by bychan posted on 16-85 - Portions of Images Blurry at 30/05/2019 - 23:49
Thanks for your feedback.
I'll get in touch with Alan, I might as well contact SRS (from whom I bought the lens new) ; they might be able to confirm whether it is repairable.
So frustrating having invested £500 on it, 3.5 years ago.
Perhaps a worst case scenario would be trying to get compensation from Ricoh, under the conditions of the sales of goods act I. E
You have six years to take a claim to court for faulty goods in England, Wales and Northern Ireland; in Scotland you have five years.
In fairness one would expect a £500 lens to perform better.
I 'upgraded' from a Sigma 18-50 to the 16-85, mainly for the weather sealing and extra 2mm. I loved the Sigma, and if I'm forced back into the market, I'd likely opt for a Sigma 17-50.
I agree totally that potentially it is a great lens, and it's been a pleasure to use.
I don't think that I'll be following your route of a K1, though, having only gone onto the K3 just over a year ago😏
Thanks
Adrian
Comment by bychan posted on 16-85 - Portions of Images Blurry at 28/05/2019 - 23:34
Mostly it seems to be at the widest range, and on the right hand side of the images (although there is one example where the left side is affected).
For example these two were taken minutes apart a few days ago, first @16mm and the second @23mm.
The third is a crop of the right side of the image, which appears all blurry.



@23mm seems okay.
The following was taken a few years ago, on the K5IIs (all the others K3).

To my eyes the left side of the following are "off" as well.


It seems that others have also encountered such issues e.g.
https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/topic/16-85-issues-58761
Unfortunately my lens is out of warranty; is this fixable even?
I suppose my only option is to contact the official Pentax repairers for advice.
Has anybody else suffered from such an issue with the 16-85?
Thanks
Adrian
Comment by bychan posted on 16-85 - Portions of Images Blurry at 27/05/2019 - 23:50
Comment by bychan posted on WTB Pentax K 5 ii s at 04/05/2019 - 18:57


The only Welsh I know is “that’s lush!” and “what’s occurin?”
I look forward to being educated, my Welsh wife has failed in 40-odd years. Some things she says are a complete mystery to me.