No we got some who like Jazz/blues and such, Mozart is also named once

They could very well do that George.
The lower the mountain the more entry level it is or how higher the more pro it is, it could work you know.

Not only are they low but the form of distortion you get is very easily removable.
The distortion with the sigma at 10mm is quite special and hard to control from what I've heard.

I believe that's a pin that can be used on some cameras to align the plate with.
So the pin fits inside a whole so that it's always aligned, I believe that's what it is for.

Sorry Martin but everything you said is very true but the saving in sRGB for printing is quite ridiculous don't you think?
I know that many printers (people that print photos for you) ask for sRGB but they have never explained that and I'm quite sure that the printers they have can handle aRGB with ease. Even the better printers we have at home can benefit a bit from aRGB so why not them?

aRGB was developed to overlap CYMK colours. CYMK is what printers use so, Cyan, Yellow, Magenta and Key black.

Pictures tells you more then a thousands word so I've some pictures.


White line is sRGB
Black line is aRGB
Grey line is CYMK profile of a high-end inkjet printer with 8 inks, the Canon iP9900 in this case.

25% Luminance


50% Luminance


75% Luminance

"The only impossibility to the art- if we are to believe some art critics who appear to have had little oppurtunity of observation- is that it can produce art; this little treatise contends that the camera is only a tool in the same that the brush is a tool, and one capable in the hands of an artist of conveying thought, feeling, expressing individuality, and also the usual attributes of art in their degree."-- Henry Peach Robinson 1830-1901

It is a common belief that this photographic process is relatively new to the world of art. Seldom do people realize that from the fifteenth century on, artists were using optical devices to create their work. During the Rennaissance, the desire for realism and a close depiction of nature and its beauty enticed the Renaissance artists to use tools as well as pigments and brushes such as the 'camera obscura'. This device gave them the ability to reflect far away images onto flat surfaces.

In 1839, the perception of reality was further revolutionized by the invention of the Daguerreotype and the Calotype, these being the first two types of photographic images. Photography became accepted in art because of its assistance in supplying the growing middle class patronage, therefore fulfilling their urge for immediate images and entertainment.

In the terms of "the Masters", the truest quest of art is to depict nature as it truely exists. A photograph acheives this goal surpassing the efforts of all other artistic mediums. Yet the question remains whether or not the photographers themselves are true artists.

Another theory is that artists must contribute their personal spirit into their creations. Could it be possible that a photographer using a mechanical device, that creates the image, could impose their personal spirit into the finished photograph?

Ernest Lacan, the French journalist once said, "photography is like a mistress whom one cherishes and hides, about whom one speaks with joy but does not want others to mention".

There are three views of photography commonly discussed in all realms of art by critics, painters, and photographers pertaining to whether photography is beneficial to art or whether it is art at all. The first view is that photography is not an art because it is produced with a mechanical device and by chemical and physical phenomenon not by hand and inspiration. The second view is that photographs would be useful to art but should not be equal in creativeness to painting and drawing. The final theory is that because photography is so similar to lithography and etching then it would be beneficial to the arts as well as culture.

Photography has played a controversial but an important role in the arts for the last 150 years. The question still remains whether photography is an art or a new form of documentation seen by the eye instead of the mind.


Good piece right, too bad I didn't wrote it though.
It's an essays by Hobby Holmes and Emily Busse.

I'm one of the believers photography is art, well at least the kind that we do. The photos seen on Facebook and such are the other kind of photos and the difference and the difference is why we make them.
We make a photo to capture a moment and not just what we see but also what we feel to give the photo a deeper meaning, well at least we try that. We think about composition, lighting, exposure and such before we click the button, and that's why we are artists.
I'm sure that if we would be ask to make a photo of a statue and that we would all use the same lens and camera we would al have a different photo. That's the part where I find the creativity.

Some very heavy stuff for some of you, wouldn't really have thought that.

Because aRGB has a broader colour spectrum and significantly capture more shades of green and luckily that's precisely the colour we see the best. So we can say you capture a more true like image with aRGB the you can with sRGB.
As for showing those colours, most highend monitors have even a rating of a percentage they can show of aRGB. EIZO for example have screen that can show 97% of the Adobe RGB color space.
So why go for less when you can have more?

As for printers, Adobe RGB was designed to encompass most of the colours achievable on CMYK printers so it's a bit beyond me why they prefer sRGB.

The only real reason not to use aRGB is because of the colour depths of JPG, it's only 12bits.
Since it capture a broader range of green you have the problem that the steps you have with only 12bits can be undesirable so you might get a smoother transition with sRGB in that case.

Lynrd Skynrd never heard of them but it's the good old real rock so I very much like it.

Very nice music Martin, no Dutch music though, don't you have one artist that you like?

And I also really don't like tv, I simply can't watch anything on it any more. Most of the time it's on discovery or something alone that trend

Will look it up Matt sounds very interesting.
Wow Matt he's very good
This might interest you although it's on the other side of playing guitar then Rodrigo e Gabriela but it's very good and experimental. Kaki King link she can also play normal guitar although a bit differently link

Oh Richard you should worry so much, as for the term background music you're quite right, let's call it inspiration music okay.
And before you go and rant over that it's proven that music stimulates the brain.

Oh yes that's very true and only when you hear it you know it, therefore it's hard to remember the song/artist when you get home, very annoying.

Oh yes the music is very chilling.
Sia Furler was the vocalist of the song I mean and if you like that you would probable like Toby Lightman also.
Joanna Wang is probable also one that you might like, I know the name isn't promising but she can surely sing in English with her lovely voice link
The Seatbelts might also be interesting for you although they have some weird songs sometimes but some are very good, jazz/blues. link link
Oh Miles Davis is also one you need to look up, very nice with some scotch!