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Comment by Anvh posted on iPad or iPad Which One? at 03/02/2010 - 00:34
thoughton wrote:
About your Cowon S9 comments, I'm not even sure I know what to say. It seems pretty obvious to me that simply having the best audio quality isn't enough. To return to analogies again it's like buying the car that goes fastest and ignoring everything else. The Cowon needs all the other stuff the ipod has, e.g. good looks, a great UI, web and phone support, an itunes equivalent, user-friendly legal downloads, freely available gift cards, lots of retail outlets, brand trustworthiness, convenient repair avenues, and a reliable warranty, to name a few off the top of my head.
Or do you really think that marketing is the only reason the iPod outsells the Cowon S9?
No but the "must have it factor" is big with the iPod of course, the same as with nikon and canon for example.About your Cowon S9 comments, I'm not even sure I know what to say. It seems pretty obvious to me that simply having the best audio quality isn't enough. To return to analogies again it's like buying the car that goes fastest and ignoring everything else. The Cowon needs all the other stuff the ipod has, e.g. good looks, a great UI, web and phone support, an itunes equivalent, user-friendly legal downloads, freely available gift cards, lots of retail outlets, brand trustworthiness, convenient repair avenues, and a reliable warranty, to name a few off the top of my head.
Or do you really think that marketing is the only reason the iPod outsells the Cowon S9?
Here is pretty fair comparison I could find, of course apple does offer more in form of apps since it's basicly a pocketpc but we just talked about music player here so more an iPod classic.
http://www.pocketables.net/2009/03/apple-ipod-touch-2g-vs-cowon-s9-vs-samsung-p3.html
Unlocker wrote:
Yes, marketing is part of it, iTunes is another, wifi is another, the App store is another, over 25,000 games available is another, ease of use, availability.
That's the iPod thouch don't think the other iPods can do much of what you said.Yes, marketing is part of it, iTunes is another, wifi is another, the App store is another, over 25,000 games available is another, ease of use, availability.
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You know what else does it for me? £200 for a 16GB Cowon seems very poor value to my 16GB equivalent ipod touch, because mine was free. The wife has one too, hers was free as well. 10s of millions of others have free ones too.
They came built in to our iPhones!! Gotta be better that downloading a music app for a phone surely?
Yeah that's weak, my HTC is a music player as well and my computer is a stereo tower and even doubles as TV....You know what else does it for me? £200 for a 16GB Cowon seems very poor value to my 16GB equivalent ipod touch, because mine was free. The wife has one too, hers was free as well. 10s of millions of others have free ones too.
They came built in to our iPhones!! Gotta be better that downloading a music app for a phone surely?
About the review, just google and see what others have to say.
Comment by Anvh posted on iPad or iPad Which One? at 03/02/2010 - 00:22
Danny I think the iPhone has so many apps is because of the group that people that use them, most of them are students properly just with the iPod.
If you see what that 99.4% makes out, i believe they said that games was the greatest market, so that says something about the people and how they use the device.
About the apps you named usefully, most of the really useful ones are also on other devices and things like facebook you can just look it up on the browser right?
Also watching video, that goes over 3g and that can be done on many other phones as well so not really any content that makes it different from the rest.
And well if you want to record video on your iPhone you need an app for that, silly enough.
If I can open the most standard text files then I'm basicly covert.
And excel is handy since I did quite some calculation in that for school and I could quickly look at them if needed, of course really making something in it was a pain but small edits and such was no problem same is true for word.
Out of the box it's normal that a smartphone sync e-mail, contacts, calender and notes, besides that I've the option to say it should sync my music folder or any other folder.
About bookmarks I go a step further with that the one of my phone and computer are sync but even if I open the browser on another computer... my neighbours computer for example I can sync it online if I log in.
I believe google android also throws everything it syncs on the web so if you lose your phone and get a new one from the shop you can sync it instantly and have all your data back.
About the startrek video, you can just convert that to a format your phone can handle and you can just watch it...
Also you can get MP3 of the net so I don't see how apple has more content...
If you see what that 99.4% makes out, i believe they said that games was the greatest market, so that says something about the people and how they use the device.
About the apps you named usefully, most of the really useful ones are also on other devices and things like facebook you can just look it up on the browser right?
Also watching video, that goes over 3g and that can be done on many other phones as well so not really any content that makes it different from the rest.
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Indeed but the standard player on windows does support a lot but not loseless audio which the player I've now does... what does the iPod/phone support of loseless?Quote:
I've an HTC and all I installed is coreplayer a music player that support a lot of formats and tomtom.
Remember my 'as an example' from earlier? Rough translation from what I can see goes something like this 'iPhone doesn't even come with apps it should do, I installed a music player on my Windows Mobile phone'. Oh dear. Oh deary deary me.I've an HTC and all I installed is coreplayer a music player that support a lot of formats and tomtom.
And well if you want to record video on your iPhone you need an app for that, silly enough.
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But a music player is already standard on it and a phone is a phone why does it need to have for example the complete collection of Shakespeare on it?Quote:
Besides that out of the box Words, excel and another one was installed out of the box, Opera web browser (with flash support ) and PDF viewer. That's all someone would need right?
As long as that someone is called Stefan, yeah, that's all you would need, but the idea of Excel on my phone makes me sick! Maybe something more useful like a music player.........Besides that out of the box Words, excel and another one was installed out of the box, Opera web browser (with flash support ) and PDF viewer. That's all someone would need right?
If I can open the most standard text files then I'm basicly covert.
And excel is handy since I did quite some calculation in that for school and I could quickly look at them if needed, of course really making something in it was a pain but small edits and such was no problem same is true for word.
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Oh, and if we do buy an iPad, I will plug it into the Mac, and everything I have on my phone (apps, music, podcasts, digital copy of Star Trek that came free with the Blu Ray that I got for Xmas) will work on it straight away, out of the box, and my itunes account, and my e-mail, and my contacts, and my calendar, and all my bookmarks, photo albums etc. all by just pressing the 'Sync' button in iTunes. Along with 10s of millions of other people.
Is that so special? Oh, and if we do buy an iPad, I will plug it into the Mac, and everything I have on my phone (apps, music, podcasts, digital copy of Star Trek that came free with the Blu Ray that I got for Xmas) will work on it straight away, out of the box, and my itunes account, and my e-mail, and my contacts, and my calendar, and all my bookmarks, photo albums etc. all by just pressing the 'Sync' button in iTunes. Along with 10s of millions of other people.
Out of the box it's normal that a smartphone sync e-mail, contacts, calender and notes, besides that I've the option to say it should sync my music folder or any other folder.
About bookmarks I go a step further with that the one of my phone and computer are sync but even if I open the browser on another computer... my neighbours computer for example I can sync it online if I log in.
I believe google android also throws everything it syncs on the web so if you lose your phone and get a new one from the shop you can sync it instantly and have all your data back.
About the startrek video, you can just convert that to a format your phone can handle and you can just watch it...
Also you can get MP3 of the net so I don't see how apple has more content...
Comment by Anvh posted on iPad or iPad Which One? at 03/02/2010 - 00:03
Dave have you done this?
http://www.steves-digicams.com/knowledge-center/using-icc-profiles-with-epson-printers.html
http://www.steves-digicams.com/knowledge-center/using-icc-profiles-with-epson-printers.html
Comment by Anvh posted on colour check at 02/02/2010 - 23:18
Don't forget shipping cost, import duties and tax, I don't think it would be much cheaper if you just buy it in your country.
Comment by Anvh posted on Camera purchase from internet - any international manufacturer's guarantee? at 02/02/2010 - 23:14
thoughton wrote:
I believe my response was something along the lines of "Either the product is good and 250 million people bought it because they recognised that, or the product is crap and 250 million people were tricked by marketing. Which do you believe?"
So which is it?
Well we can also change that a bit since most Apple products aren't crap so the situation you make now isn't true.I believe my response was something along the lines of "Either the product is good and 250 million people bought it because they recognised that, or the product is crap and 250 million people were tricked by marketing. Which do you believe?"
So which is it?
Can you say because 250 million people bought it that apple is the best product?
Since that is what we are saying, that apple often doesn't make the best product and that it most of the time cost more.
I gave for example that the Cowon S9 gives the best audio of any MP3 player so why are there so many more iPod sold?
You can't deny that marketing and hype has nothing to do with it.
Comment by Anvh posted on iPad or iPad Which One? at 02/02/2010 - 23:09
thoughton wrote:
Unlocker, that's a good point about content. I hadn't really given the content side much thought - other than being peripherally aware of the deals Apple are pursuing with the big publishing houses - but I think you've nailed it. I could get used to the idea of having my magazine and newspaper subscriptions delivered to the iPad and managing it all through itunes. I read something today as well talking about iTunes digital subscriptions from the US comic book market.
Now that's interesting, didn't knew that Unlocker, that's a good point about content. I hadn't really given the content side much thought - other than being peripherally aware of the deals Apple are pursuing with the big publishing houses - but I think you've nailed it. I could get used to the idea of having my magazine and newspaper subscriptions delivered to the iPad and managing it all through itunes. I read something today as well talking about iTunes digital subscriptions from the US comic book market.
Of course what is stopping them to bring it out also on other digital medium?
Indeed the numbers are larger but you can see it in a good and bad way.
Comment by Anvh posted on iPad or iPad Which One? at 02/02/2010 - 22:50
Smaller f-number and a longer focal length should give you a more blurred background, if that isn't enough you can place your own background or do some in post processing.
Comment by Anvh posted on Background Correction at 02/02/2010 - 21:10
Oggy we aren't talking about second-hand here I believe, but buying things over the boarder.
Comment by Anvh posted on Camera purchase from internet - any international manufacturer's guarantee? at 02/02/2010 - 18:53
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Anything invented before your fifteenth birthday is the order of nature. That's how it should be. Anything invented between your 15th and 35th birthday is new and exciting, and you might get a career there. Anything invented after that day, however, is against nature and should be prohibited.
It's true it takes some time to set up the first time since everything needs to be match with each other but after that matching isn't needed and if you do it the smart way you can even batch process images. If you shoot at a constant whitebalance and exposure and nothing really change concerning those you can easily handle 20 or more files at a time, I want to see you do that in a dark room Anything invented before your fifteenth birthday is the order of nature. That's how it should be. Anything invented between your 15th and 35th birthday is new and exciting, and you might get a career there. Anything invented after that day, however, is against nature and should be prohibited.
Also you're not comparing lightroom with a darkroom but that's what you should do.
If you want you can shoot in jpg and bring your sd-card straight to the printer like you did with film, no difference there.
Comment by Anvh posted on Now I am really confused at 02/02/2010 - 18:50
Danny I think the iPhone has so many apps is because of the group that people that use them, most of them are students properly just with the iPod.
Like said most of them, don't weigh it to heavy
About the apps you named usefully, most of the really useful ones are also on other devices and things like facebook you can just look it up on the browser right?
Indeed but the standard player on windows does support a lot but not loseless audio which the player I've now does... what does the iPod/phone support of loseless?
And well if you want to record video on your iPhone you need an app for that, silly enough.
And I didn't knew it was standard with the 3G now.
But a music player is already standard on it and a phone is a phone why does it need to have for example the complete collection of Shakespeare on it?
Why an app... just because it's simpler, we are getting to lazy you know
Danny wrote: Oh, and if we do buy an iPad, I will plug it into the Mac, and everything I have on my phone (apps, music, podcasts, digital copy of Star Trek that came free with the Blu Ray that I got for Xmas) will work on it straight away, out of the box, and my itunes account, and my e-mail, and my contacts, and my calendar, and all my bookmarks, photo albums etc. all by just pressing the 'Sync' button in iTunes. Along with 10s of millions of other people.
Is that so special?
Out of the box it's normal that a smartphone sync e-mail, contacts, calender and notes, besides that I've the option to say it should sync my music folder or any other folder.
And having Apple say what to sync and what not and when is not a good choice, Apple is not deciding what I would do in my life.