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A serious question, can Mac be used as a carrier for a virus (malware)?

Comment by Anvh posted on iPad or iPad Which One? at 03/02/2010 - 19:13

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Martin I already said it to give it a rest 10 minutes before you and I must say it was fun and interesting and learned quite some things which is always useful. Even if I say something wrong and if that gets correct then what is there so bad about it, but ah well never mind.

The most useful feature of the iPad is that it has apps (appstore/iTunes) and for those using iTunes now will see the potential and for those not using it and having to learn to deal with things in other ways are sceptical.

Did I summarize it quite well?

Now the virus thing is something I wont a conclusion on though since I don't know where that's going...

Comment by Anvh posted on iPad or iPad Which One? at 03/02/2010 - 19:07

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Danny what are you trying to prove, that I can't name 20 viruses for the Mac?
I never claimed there are many virusses for Mac I only said there are some and the Mac isn't 100% virus proof.
Also what about Trojans and back-doors aren't those dangerous?

You on the other hand said there are a handful of apps that are useful so naming 2% of what you found must have been a piece of cake although many of them do the same thing and to classify a guide as an app but okay, I had no comments about that.

So what's your point?

Unlocker wrote:
and only one of theses is a virus, and it is only proof of concept.
And you said something about reading?
Quote:
Until October 2007, the malware landscape for Apple’s OS X had been largely unspectacular. Two exploits, four worms, one virus and one rootkit - and these were all essentially proof of concept creations

Comment by Anvh posted on iPad or iPad Which One? at 03/02/2010 - 18:56

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technoidiot wrote:
Stefan - I could be wrong but I don't think anyone has ever said
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Still saying there are no viruses or such for the MAC and that you don't need a virus scanner...
Utopia Poppy wrote:
The argument about Apple being in charge of everything they do: is a great concept to me, and one that you choose to buy into or not. I love the fact that they have created an operating system that is so secure it does not require anti virus software to be installed by the user. Microsoft on the other hand, have somehow "brainwashed" the masses into thinking that it's ok to have an operating system that is not secure and requires YOU to buy/install extra anti-virus once you've got your product home. If you were sold a house that had no locks on the doors or windows, and a burgler lurking outside, would you not complain? So why not complain about an operating system that is suseptable to viruses?
technoidiot wrote:
I think most of us MacHeads do have a Virus Scanner available to us - and we are careful
And I said it was wise and safe to because nothing is 100% virus proof and even if so you can do it for those poor Windows users since you can send a virus through by a Mac.
For the rest I let the matter fly.

And indeed it childish in a way, I don't deny that but you're also playing a long.

Lets just give it up, there are two point of views about this product and only time will tell what will happen and then we have some actual numbers to play with.

Comment by Anvh posted on iPad or iPad Which One? at 03/02/2010 - 18:42

Anvh
Still a list of threads for MAC, just like you asked for or not?

Here this might be interesting read, August 2009 so pretty up to date.
link

Comment by Anvh posted on iPad or iPad Which One? at 03/02/2010 - 18:32

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Unlocker wrote:
No probs Photomonk!

Out of that lot, I have Photocalc on my iPhone which has a DoF calculator, flash exposure guide, location aware solar calculator, Exposure Reciprocation calculator, Glossary, Zone System, Sunny 16 Rules and filter references. Very useful app.

Now that I've done this quick search, gonna get some more, starting with Strobox!
good I asked for it then

Comment by Anvh posted on iPad or iPad Which One? at 03/02/2010 - 18:09

Anvh
Thank you Danny and I ain't going to do your research since you brought the fact up and you already know the software and have it installed and since you know it where 1,000 of apps then you already had a look at them.
So what's so wrong to call for you iTunes expertise?

There are some truly useful apps in those list mostly the guides, and some would be useful to other users.
Like you said "Some of you will think 'meh' could get it elsewhere, some of you will think 'hmmm, that's handy', others will think 'actually, thats pretty damn good."
The first applies to me now sadly and I think you might agree to that, just different thoughts sorry Danny.

Now the virus, I don't think I can make it to 20 with MAC only but we will have a go.

Spyware.
Aobo Keylogger - Keylogger - OSX
Aobo Keylogger Pro - Keylogger - OSX
AppleScript.THT - Trojan Horse - OSX
BackTrack - Keylogger - OSX
BlazingTools Perfect Keylogger - Keylogger - OSX
CarbonKeys - Keylogger - OSX
DNSChanger - Trojan Horse - OSX
DutyWatch - Keylogger - OSX
DutyWatch Remote - Keylogger - OSX
eWatch - Trojan Horse - OSX
EZmal - Trojan Horse - OSX
HellRaiser - Trojan Horse - OSX
iMunizator - Scareware - OSX
Instant Access Dialer - Trojan Horse - OSX
Invisible Oasis - Keylogger - Classic
KeyBag - Keylogger - OSX
Keyboard and Mouse Recorder - Keylogger - OSX
Keyboard Spy - Keylogger - OSX
KeyCaptor - Keylogger - OSX
KeyStroke - Keylogger - Classic
Keystroke Recorder - Keylogger - Classic
KeystrokeRecorder X - Keylogger - OSX
Kidlogger - Keylogger - OSX
Last Resort - Keylogger - Classic
Lose Lose - Malware - OSX
Mac Remote Control - Remote Admin Program - OSX
MacLifeInsurance - Keylogger - Classic
Monitorer - Keylogger - Classic
Monitorer X - Keylogger - OSX
MonitorerX Pro - Keylogger - OSX
OSXvnc - Remote Admin Program - OSX
Peeping Tom - Keylogger - Classic
PokerStealer - Trojan Horse - OSX
Spector - Keylogger - OSX
Spector Pro 2009 - Keylogger - OSX
Spy - Trojan Horse - OSX
SpyMe - Remote Admin Program - OSX
Super Save - Keylogger - Classic
TakeDown Suite - Trojan Horse - Classic
Termite(OS9) - Trojan Horse - Classic
Termite(OSX) - Trojan Horse - OSX
TextMeleon - Keylogger -OSX
TextTrap - Keylogger - Classic
TIFF Vulnerability - Exploit - OSX
Tored - Trojan Horse - OSX
TypeAgent - Keylogger - OSX
TypeRecorder - Keylogger - Classic
TypeRecorder X - Keylogger - OSX
TypeSaver - Keylogger - Classic
UnderHand - Trojan Horse - OSX
Xover - Trojan Horse - OSX

And here is a good list with 114 threats (those above are also in it I believe).
http://www.iantivirus.com/threats/

So at least 114 threats there are now known for the MAC, it does sound a lot but I would not want to know the numbers there are for Windows.
Still saying there are no viruses or such for the MAC and that you don't need a virus scanner...

ps. just found some number of some months ago for windows.
2247659 was the count in Augustus 2009
FreeBSD was the safest OS with only 43

Comment by Anvh posted on iPad or iPad Which One? at 03/02/2010 - 18:07

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robbie_d wrote:
That statement has no relevance whatsoever to the point I made (which was about Macs having more preloaded software "out of the box" compared to PCs).
Well yes it's important because Microsoft isn't allowed to any more to give windows so much out of the box because it need to give other software manufactures the change to sell their products, in the EU they even are providing now a super clean version with just windows and a few standard programs.
It's probably comes down that Apple makes OS for their own products and Microsoft for someone else their products so in that aspect you might not compare the both.

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And the last statement is very telling, focusing on the can'ts rather than the cans...
ah, how so?
I already know much about the cans and I just want to know what troubles there might be in the long run in terms of software, and basicly there is no difference between the can's and cant's because all I want is an answer.

With iPhone you've the appstore of course and I know where to get windows mobile stuff since I already have them and I would like to know if I can get the same things on the android and how the stability is of the OS, it's most likely better then Windows mobile though... oh wait I can't think negatively about a product because you get mad...

Comment by Anvh posted on iPad or iPad Which One? at 03/02/2010 - 17:34

Anvh
Thank you very much KZ that explains things perfectly

Comment by Anvh posted on Camera purchase from internet - any international manufacturer's guarantee? at 03/02/2010 - 17:18

Anvh
iceblinker wrote:
Anvh wrote:
I never read the K7 got an SR update.
It hasn't officially, but some users are alledging (perhaps imagining) that it has.
Oh really, it's only very hard to test SR so it's hard to prove anything.

Comment by Anvh posted on Downsides to Shake Reduction at 03/02/2010 - 16:10

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