Danny you don't have all the info but you could use the 645D with the 55mm lens so why mask the focal length on this model?

I think it's most likely a wide angle lens by the shape of it 35mm maybe?

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Depends on the people and their custom and culture.
If it's in a culture shocking and not done to see someone naked I don't think a statue of a naked man will be excepted as art by them however someone who can appreciate the human body would say something else.
Different people, different values.

I'm sure that if you show someone living in 1600 AC this art work, that they wouldn't call it art either.
Is it art yes it's art for us but it does not to be for someone else.


I hope you can agree with this or we would have a discussion again

It's the same with music, music is also art but I'm sure some cultures can't except/see hard-rock as music

The DFA WR and non WR are both just as suited for the pentax ring flash, it use the hood bayonet with those lenses I believe.

Oggy that not true, you only see it with the bright dics, here see for yourself.
The bright discs only look more round nothing more nothing less, when you can't make out a clear disc the bokeh is the same.

Well a bit north of you it's 1200 Swiss francs, still quite a lot though.
Just a year ago it costed quite a bit less... I've no idea why this lens have gotten so expensive.

You should take the flight to UK I think, I don't think shipment from Australia to the UK and then to Italy will be cheaper.

The best price I can give you is €829 link
And shipping isn't taxed between countries of the EU so you only pay shipping cost, nothing more.
But I haven't hear a lot of good things about the post service in Italy

Like Robbie says in a sort of way art is art for me, I don't see why I should discriminate because of the methods that are used to create art or can you give me a good reason why I should?

Now architecture or other forms of design can come close to art in my view and that's why I brought that up because why isn't that art?
Now that question is answered so no point discussing that.

No I don't think so, i think it is important because you need to "consume" something like art to make it art or else it's just what it is, some paint on a piece of paper, a snapshot, ect.
For example a portrait, if it was for example your grandfather that stood model then it will always stay a portrait for you nothing more nothing less.
However if it's so well painted/drawn/photographed and some one who see the portrait and doesn't know anything about it can see it as art, who are you to say it isn't art for him?

Can you see what I mean?
Nothing against our discussion earlier since you're right but I think this also matters.

Bob this isn't the 55mm
And this is not something in the hood like the DA/DA* but this in the lens

But yeah it could be an filter insert, like with the FA*600 for example, that one had a filter insert on the back.

If they could make all the filters the same size this way

Thank you guys

Yeah that's true but the effect is minimum form all the pictures I gathered, only when you can see a clear bokeh blob, disc of confusion is a better word then you see it are rounded blades for the rest you can't tell them apart.
The light distribution in the disk so bokeh is still the same because it uses the same lens formula.
And when you use the lens wide open it doesn't use the aperture blades at all and both lenses are round so precisely the same photos.
I had my hopes it would a bit more of an effect but by the looks of it it's only the build quality that makes me want it the most over the DFA100 I've now, the rounded blades are a plus but not something I would buy this lens for.

So how is the build quality?

Ah yes and no.
It's super that Apple now use Intel and Nvidia.
If you know what to get and are a bit handy you could buy a laptop and install Mac on it, now don't say it's against the rules.
It's true you go against the user agreements off Apple but Apple didn't provide you those agreements when/before buying so they are invalid in Europe.

As for prices link

Yeah that's right but that's not a reason to by a Hassie right?
of course if I got it for free... but still I might just sell the hassie and get the 645D with some lenses instead