K20D vs K-X

I tend to agree with the view that ANY DSLR will have all the adjustments and manual options you need to take the 'right' picture, or at least what you had in your mind when you were taking it.

It was one of the most frustrating things about a Fuji bridge camera I owned once, changing the aperture/shutter speed/metering etc was a nightmare of double key presses or messing about deep in menu systems by which time your shot had gone! You needed 15 fingers at least to operate it quickly, and although I live on the edge of the Fens with the resultant extra digits on both hand, I found it impossible...

K-X vs K20d will boil down I expect to what feels right in your hands, although I have to say it would be sensible to get the camera that will work with the accessories you already have...

When I bought my first SLR (not DSLR) very-very long time ago the basic modes helped me to survive the learning period when I was not able to produce good pictures at all with the creative modes. That's why I think basic modes are important for a beginner. Or at least they were important for me.
KZ

I would have thought the choice would be quite straightforward really. The k20D is considered more semi-pro and you know pretty much what you will get. The k-x will be slightly cheaper to buy, smaller, lighter, have video and better higk ISO performance. If they are important factors then get the K-X if not the established K20D is the one.
Dave

Ironically, the K-x is more expensive than the K20D at SRS, according to the advert in the new issue of AP, based on body-only prices.

Found a K20D and took it on a trip to Florida last week... Newest photo I have posted was taken with it and my Sigma 170 - 500mm lens. Wow, pretty neat machine!!! I'm also very impressed with the low light capability of the K20D over the K10D. Tomorrow I'll post a shot I took in a dark theater that I was quite pleased with.

When I sold my *istDS, I bought a KM, didnt like it much so sold it about a month later (lost money on that one). My next decision was which to buy now. The K7 was just a little dear for my needs, so I bought the K20D. Shortly after I bought the K20D, they bring out the KX with video capabilities. I thought that would have been good. I am extremely happy with the K20D, its a pity it wasnt just a firmware upgrade to get video.

One day (unless of course you dont mind spending the money, and your wife doesnt mind you spending the money)you have to stop buying every new camera that comes on the market.

When will they bring out an upgradeable system that just means buying a new chip, or a slide out module like the Ricoh P&S.

Technology is just moving too fast for my liking, or should I say I like it but dont want to keep spending the money to upgrade everytime a camera with new features comes out. Next will be the almighty K5(LX model), Ive started saving for that one?

They needed to change the sensor in the K7 to make it suitable for video so with just a firmware upgrade you wouldn't come far.

Video on the K20,,,Noooooooooooooooooooooooo!,the thought of it makes me cringe!..It's an excellent Dslr,simple to use,with wonderful IQ!....Just a pity they dropped it from the range!

Not wishing to hi-jack this thread, but it saves starting a new one which may run alongside this one.

I may be in the market for a DSLR in May (depends how much birthday money I get and whether or not I blow the lot on medals/dirks/helmets et al and I am pondering if it is worthwile upgrading from my K200D to a K7 or not.
I have a battery grip for the K200D but I don't think that will work on the K7; obviously the lenses and flashgun will.

Any views of an upgrade?

I always think it's difficult to answer "the which one shall I get" questions without knowing a person's exact priorities.I wouldn't agree that the K-x is overpriced for example. I thought £595 to be quite reasonable for a DSLR including standard lens and a quality 55-300mm zoom that sells separately for £200-300 ! Personally while the k20D is probably better overall I found it too weighty for me and wanted the brilliant K-x high Iso performance. Others will have different priorities.

Speaking from a similar position I was in recently, deciding on my first DSLR, I chose a K20D.
My criteria was slightly different in that I am experienced in photography and my decision was weighted by certain specs which I deemed necessary (video not being one).

I think the K20D is excellent, and a camera which can be used in any way to suit anyone. It can be used point-n-shoot or totally manual (leaving every decision to the user). Furthermore it's unlikely anyone learning photography with this camera will ever find themselves in the situation of wishing for a facility it doesn't have.
I've been really very impressed how easy it has been to start using from the word go.
From my point of view, having experience, it's a joy to use. Everything you need often is easy and readily available, buttons aren't cramped and are in the "right" place; it's been very intuitively designed. And it just feels so right in your hands.
But the same could be true for others of course.

That said, in your case I don't think you should base your choice entirely on specifications alone.
I don't have big hands and although the K20D feels good, I wouldn't be objecting if it were a little smaller.
You really should go to a shop and hold them, make sure they feel OK in your hands. It doesn't matter how good a camera is if you are not comfortable with it.

If you are comfortable with the K20D, it will not be a wrong choice.

Food for thought!

I believe one K7 user said that the K7 was more fluid to work with then the K20D, I don't know who that said but there is more difference between the two cameras then the specs, you should go to a shop and try them out side by side. If you can I think you would go for the K7 then since you already are comfortable with the smaller size of the K200D.

ps. have you seen the Silver K7, how on earth can you refuse that one!

Nooooo, got to be one of those coloured K-x; the dayglow pink
Must be able to get award winning shots from that.
(Just from the look on peoples' faces when you catch them.)

I love yours Stefan - even though I think it might be a tad "rude" - lol

T