iPad or iPad Which One?
Posted 03/02/2010 - 18:09
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No probs Photomonk!
Out of that lot, I have Photocalc on my iPhone which has a DoF calculator, flash exposure guide, location aware solar calculator, Exposure Reciprocation calculator, Glossary, Zone System, Sunny 16 Rules and filter references. Very useful app.
Now that I've done this quick search, gonna get some more, starting with Strobox!
good I asked for it then
No probs Photomonk!
Out of that lot, I have Photocalc on my iPhone which has a DoF calculator, flash exposure guide, location aware solar calculator, Exposure Reciprocation calculator, Glossary, Zone System, Sunny 16 Rules and filter references. Very useful app.
Now that I've done this quick search, gonna get some more, starting with Strobox!
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Posted 03/02/2010 - 18:32
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Stefan - I could be wrong but I don't think anyone has ever said
Now how about stopping all these attempts at point scoring - it's childish
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Still saying there are no viruses or such for the MAC and that you don't need a virus scanner...
I think most of us MacHeads do have a Virus Scanner available to us - and we are careful Still saying there are no viruses or such for the MAC and that you don't need a virus scanner...
Now how about stopping all these attempts at point scoring - it's childish
let the education continue
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Posted 03/02/2010 - 18:42
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technoidiot wrote:
Stefan - I could be wrong but I don't think anyone has ever said
Stefan - I could be wrong but I don't think anyone has ever said
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Still saying there are no viruses or such for the MAC and that you don't need a virus scanner...
Still saying there are no viruses or such for the MAC and that you don't need a virus scanner...
Utopia Poppy wrote:
The argument about Apple being in charge of everything they do: is a great concept to me, and one that you choose to buy into or not. I love the fact that they have created an operating system that is so secure it does not require anti virus software to be installed by the user. Microsoft on the other hand, have somehow "brainwashed" the masses into thinking that it's ok to have an operating system that is not secure and requires YOU to buy/install extra anti-virus once you've got your product home. If you were sold a house that had no locks on the doors or windows, and a burgler lurking outside, would you not complain? So why not complain about an operating system that is suseptable to viruses?
The argument about Apple being in charge of everything they do: is a great concept to me, and one that you choose to buy into or not. I love the fact that they have created an operating system that is so secure it does not require anti virus software to be installed by the user. Microsoft on the other hand, have somehow "brainwashed" the masses into thinking that it's ok to have an operating system that is not secure and requires YOU to buy/install extra anti-virus once you've got your product home. If you were sold a house that had no locks on the doors or windows, and a burgler lurking outside, would you not complain? So why not complain about an operating system that is suseptable to viruses?
technoidiot wrote:
I think most of us MacHeads do have a Virus Scanner available to us - and we are careful
And I said it was wise and safe to because nothing is 100% virus proof and even if so you can do it for those poor Windows users since you can send a virus through by a Mac.I think most of us MacHeads do have a Virus Scanner available to us - and we are careful
For the rest I let the matter fly.
And indeed it childish in a way, I don't deny that but you're also playing a long.
Lets just give it up, there are two point of views about this product and only time will tell what will happen and then we have some actual numbers to play with.
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Posted 03/02/2010 - 18:46
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Anvh wrote:
Still a list of threads for MAC, just like you asked for or not?
Here this might be interesting read, August 2009 so pretty up to date.
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No, I asked for 20 viruses Stefan.Still a list of threads for MAC, just like you asked for or not?
Here this might be interesting read, August 2009 so pretty up to date.
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Your link show 9 Viruses and worms, and only one of theses is a virus, and it is only proof of concept.
What's next? This is getting boring.
Posted 03/02/2010 - 18:52
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Hi Stefan,
I have been reading this tread with a lot of amusement. But slowly this turns into
a shameful exhibition of: "Not knowing when to quit"
There was a wise man in the east, several centuries ago who said:
When one person calls you a donkey.....ignore and move on.
When two persons call you a donkey.....stop for a moment, think and move on slowly
When three or more call you a donkey.....turn your head around and look for hoof prints.
I mean........does the sound: iaaaaaa, iaaaaaa sound familiar?
Come on buddy, give it a rest.
I have been reading this tread with a lot of amusement. But slowly this turns into
a shameful exhibition of: "Not knowing when to quit"
There was a wise man in the east, several centuries ago who said:
When one person calls you a donkey.....ignore and move on.
When two persons call you a donkey.....stop for a moment, think and move on slowly
When three or more call you a donkey.....turn your head around and look for hoof prints.
I mean........does the sound: iaaaaaa, iaaaaaa sound familiar?
Come on buddy, give it a rest.
Posted 03/02/2010 - 18:56
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Danny what are you trying to prove, that I can't name 20 viruses for the Mac?
I never claimed there are many virusses for Mac I only said there are some and the Mac isn't 100% virus proof.
Also what about Trojans and back-doors aren't those dangerous?
You on the other hand said there are a handful of apps that are useful so naming 2% of what you found must have been a piece of cake although many of them do the same thing and to classify a guide as an app but okay, I had no comments about that.
So what's your point?
I never claimed there are many virusses for Mac I only said there are some and the Mac isn't 100% virus proof.
Also what about Trojans and back-doors aren't those dangerous?
You on the other hand said there are a handful of apps that are useful so naming 2% of what you found must have been a piece of cake although many of them do the same thing and to classify a guide as an app but okay, I had no comments about that.
So what's your point?
Unlocker wrote:
and only one of theses is a virus, and it is only proof of concept.
And you said something about reading?and only one of theses is a virus, and it is only proof of concept.
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Until October 2007, the malware landscape for Apple’s OS X had been largely unspectacular. Two exploits, four worms, one virus and one rootkit - and these were all essentially proof of concept creations
Until October 2007, the malware landscape for Apple’s OS X had been largely unspectacular. Two exploits, four worms, one virus and one rootkit - and these were all essentially proof of concept creations
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Posted 03/02/2010 - 19:07
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Martin I already said it to give it a rest 10 minutes before you and I must say it was fun and interesting and learned quite some things which is always useful. Even if I say something wrong and if that gets correct then what is there so bad about it, but ah well never mind.
The most useful feature of the iPad is that it has apps (appstore/iTunes) and for those using iTunes now will see the potential and for those not using it and having to learn to deal with things in other ways are sceptical.
Did I summarize it quite well?
Now the virus thing is something I wont a conclusion on though since I don't know where that's going...
The most useful feature of the iPad is that it has apps (appstore/iTunes) and for those using iTunes now will see the potential and for those not using it and having to learn to deal with things in other ways are sceptical.
Did I summarize it quite well?
Now the virus thing is something I wont a conclusion on though since I don't know where that's going...
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Posted 03/02/2010 - 19:08
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I'm a PC man for donkeys year (yes, iaaaa does sound familiar ) and I love the MacBook Pro that I recently bought.
OS X certainly is not immune against viruses, and there have been reports of bot nets of Macs. Apple themselves recommend using virus scanners (and for quite a while already, judging by this article).
It certainly is a lot more likely that I get a virus on my PC than on my MacBook, but neither is immune. PC's are a more rewarding target for virus producers as there are more of them around.
Prieni
OS X certainly is not immune against viruses, and there have been reports of bot nets of Macs. Apple themselves recommend using virus scanners (and for quite a while already, judging by this article).
It certainly is a lot more likely that I get a virus on my PC than on my MacBook, but neither is immune. PC's are a more rewarding target for virus producers as there are more of them around.
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Posted 03/02/2010 - 19:13
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A serious question, can Mac be used as a carrier for a virus (malware)?
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Posted 03/02/2010 - 20:17
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robbie_d wrote:
To be fair I've had far more trouble with PCs than I had with my Mac, and you could level the "not bad until they break down" criticism at PCs too, just don't forget to include "get a virus" and "just don't want to work".
My own experience is that Macs, or I should say PPC iMacs in particular, are dramatically more prone to breaking down, and not wanting to work. To be fair I think that particular product line was more prone to hardware failure than most Apple products, but it doesn't exactly inspire confidence in Apple that they let a product like that reach the general public.To be fair I've had far more trouble with PCs than I had with my Mac, and you could level the "not bad until they break down" criticism at PCs too, just don't forget to include "get a virus" and "just don't want to work".
As far as the OS goes, it's nice for general desktop use but I've found it to be mediocre and unreliable in a networked, professional computing environment where interaction with servers is important. [edit: disclaimer: I'm referring to Tiger here. I understand that Leopard is improved, but once again it was an Apple product that a lot of people bought, and many still use]
And Apple's filesystem, HFS+, was described by Linus Torvalds as "complete and utter crap" a while back, and I'm sorry to say that my own experience with it, especially on an Apple server that was unfortunately purchased before I started my current job, has tended to vindicate his position very handsomely indeed.
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And despite the rather scoffing nature of your "goes with the curtains" comment, this is a consideration made by many consumers, as people spend fortunes on interior designing and don't want to ruin it by putting a big, ugly, noisy PC in the corner of their living room.
Yes, it is; that's a fair point.And despite the rather scoffing nature of your "goes with the curtains" comment, this is a consideration made by many consumers, as people spend fortunes on interior designing and don't want to ruin it by putting a big, ugly, noisy PC in the corner of their living room.
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As I said before it's all a case of what is best for different people, and if you can't/won't see that (and beyond what you believe suits you) there's little point carrying on posting in this thread.
I'm afraid I simply don't accept with what you say there. I only wish people did actually buy what was best for them (in general - some do, of course). The whole point is that often, they don't, and from my point of view it is you who can't, or won't see that.
As I said before it's all a case of what is best for different people, and if you can't/won't see that (and beyond what you believe suits you) there's little point carrying on posting in this thread.
Posted 03/02/2010 - 20:19
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Anvh wrote:
A serious question, can Mac be used as a carrier for a virus (malware)?
Depends what you mean by 'carrier'. Certainly a virus could be passed through a Mac in some circumstances, but not by a method which relies on the host becoming infected - unless it's a Mac virus, but then you wouldn't use the term "carrier" I guess.
A serious question, can Mac be used as a carrier for a virus (malware)?
Posted 03/02/2010 - 20:25
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Anvh wrote:
You on the other hand said there are a handful of apps that are useful ...
So what's your point?
No I didn't. You're not reading again. I said You on the other hand said there are a handful of apps that are useful ...
So what's your point?
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With over 140,000 Apps to chose from I'm sure even you could find a handful that would be very useful Stefan. Wow.
With over 140,000 Apps to chose from I'm sure even you could find a handful that would be very useful Stefan. Wow.
It's called sarcasm, or taking the p***, or taking the mickey, or making a joke out of you, because all you were doing was slagging them off and being derogatory about them. Get it now?
Anvh wrote:
See that word before virus? It's spelt o n e or one or 1 if you like.Unlocker wrote:
and only one of theses is a virus, and it is only proof of concept.
And you said something about reading?and only one of theses is a virus, and it is only proof of concept.
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Until October 2007, the malware landscape for Apple’s OS X had been largely unspectacular. Two exploits, four worms, one virus and one rootkit - and these were all essentially proof of concept creations
Until October 2007, the malware landscape for Apple’s OS X had been largely unspectacular. Two exploits, four worms, one virus and one rootkit - and these were all essentially proof of concept creations
See those words after virus, they include the words 'proof' and 'of' and 'concept'
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So what's so wrong to call for you iTunes expertise?
There are some truly useful apps in those list mostly the guides, and some would be useful to other users.
Like you said "Some of you will think 'meh' could get it elsewhere, some of you will think 'hmmm, that's handy', others will think 'actually, thats pretty damn good."
The first applies to me now sadly and I think you might agree to that, just different thoughts sorry Danny.
Now the virus, I don't think I can make it to 20 with MAC only but we will have a go.
Spyware.
Aobo Keylogger - Keylogger - OSX
Aobo Keylogger Pro - Keylogger - OSX
AppleScript.THT - Trojan Horse - OSX
BackTrack - Keylogger - OSX
BlazingTools Perfect Keylogger - Keylogger - OSX
CarbonKeys - Keylogger - OSX
DNSChanger - Trojan Horse - OSX
DutyWatch - Keylogger - OSX
DutyWatch Remote - Keylogger - OSX
eWatch - Trojan Horse - OSX
EZmal - Trojan Horse - OSX
HellRaiser - Trojan Horse - OSX
iMunizator - Scareware - OSX
Instant Access Dialer - Trojan Horse - OSX
Invisible Oasis - Keylogger - Classic
KeyBag - Keylogger - OSX
Keyboard and Mouse Recorder - Keylogger - OSX
Keyboard Spy - Keylogger - OSX
KeyCaptor - Keylogger - OSX
KeyStroke - Keylogger - Classic
Keystroke Recorder - Keylogger - Classic
KeystrokeRecorder X - Keylogger - OSX
Kidlogger - Keylogger - OSX
Last Resort - Keylogger - Classic
Lose Lose - Malware - OSX
Mac Remote Control - Remote Admin Program - OSX
MacLifeInsurance - Keylogger - Classic
Monitorer - Keylogger - Classic
Monitorer X - Keylogger - OSX
MonitorerX Pro - Keylogger - OSX
OSXvnc - Remote Admin Program - OSX
Peeping Tom - Keylogger - Classic
PokerStealer - Trojan Horse - OSX
Spector - Keylogger - OSX
Spector Pro 2009 - Keylogger - OSX
Spy - Trojan Horse - OSX
SpyMe - Remote Admin Program - OSX
Super Save - Keylogger - Classic
TakeDown Suite - Trojan Horse - Classic
Termite(OS9) - Trojan Horse - Classic
Termite(OSX) - Trojan Horse - OSX
TextMeleon - Keylogger -OSX
TextTrap - Keylogger - Classic
TIFF Vulnerability - Exploit - OSX
Tored - Trojan Horse - OSX
TypeAgent - Keylogger - OSX
TypeRecorder - Keylogger - Classic
TypeRecorder X - Keylogger - OSX
TypeSaver - Keylogger - Classic
UnderHand - Trojan Horse - OSX
Xover - Trojan Horse - OSX
And here is a good list with 114 threats (those above are also in it I believe).
http://www.iantivirus.com/threats/
So at least 114 threats there are now known for the MAC, it does sound a lot but I would not want to know the numbers there are for Windows.
Still saying there are no viruses or such for the MAC and that you don't need a virus scanner...
ps. just found some number of some months ago for windows.
2247659 was the count in Augustus 2009
FreeBSD was the safest OS with only 43
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