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Comment by wadna posted on Lens for Street Photography at 28/06/2011 - 23:08
Comment by wadna posted on Lens for Street Photography at 28/06/2011 - 12:24
johnwhit wrote:
http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/506-zeiss18f35eosff
Obviously on crop sensor the edge sharpness would be considerably better.
John
The price. Gulp!wadna wrote:
I envisage people subjects often being on the edge of the frame because I will be in close aiming to one side to fool them into thinking they aren't in the shot.
Ah, well you got me there, the only lens I could recommend would be the Zeiss 18mm f/3.5, I don't think anything else would compare edge sharpness wise, there's a test on EOS FF here:I envisage people subjects often being on the edge of the frame because I will be in close aiming to one side to fool them into thinking they aren't in the shot.
http://www.photozone.de/canon_eos_ff/506-zeiss18f35eosff
Obviously on crop sensor the edge sharpness would be considerably better.
John
Comment by wadna posted on Lens for Street Photography at 28/06/2011 - 08:38
johnwhit wrote:
Just a thought, it's a beautiful, compact and discrete lens.
John
I envisage people subjects often being on the edge of the frame because I will be in close aiming to one side to fool them into thinking they aren't in the shot.wadna wrote:
I just think for the money better sharpness should be part of the deal. The lens will inevitably be used for more than Street where edge to edge sharpness could be desirable.
Could the DA-15 Ltd not be used for street photography where the centre is very sharp even at f/4 with a nicely de-focused background and edge softness becomes less of a concern, maybe even desirable, then stop down to f/8 of f/11 for more critical landscape/architectural shots?I just think for the money better sharpness should be part of the deal. The lens will inevitably be used for more than Street where edge to edge sharpness could be desirable.
Just a thought, it's a beautiful, compact and discrete lens.
John
Comment by wadna posted on Lens for Street Photography at 28/06/2011 - 07:44
RioRico wrote:
It all depends on the street, eh? In some places my DA18-250 is the perfect street lens. Otherwheres might demand the Tamron 10-24, or F35-70, or various faster primes: Zenitar 16/2.8, Kiron 24/2, Komine 28/2 CFWA, SMC-FA or Yashica ML 50/1.4, Nikkor 85/2. Or slower primes: Tokina 21/3.8, Meyer Primagon 35/4.5, CZJ 50/2.8 preset (12 blades), S-M-C Takumar 135/3.5, Sakar 500/8 mirror (for discretion), etc. My favorite daytime street lens for San Francisco's Chinatown is the tiny Enna Tele-Sandmar 100/4.5, half the size of a Takumar 55/2.
As mentioned, sticking a SLR up to your face isn't really discrete. I shoot from the hip a lot with the Tamron 10-24 and Zenitar 16/2.8. Or I put the Tokina 21/3.8 or Sigma-Z 24/2.8 on a FF Praktica FX3 body and use the waist-level finder. Oh, but OP wants a wide sharp small prime for digital. That leaves just the DA 15/4 or 21/3.2 (expensive) or Zenitar 16/2.8 (slightly fishy). Good luck!
Thanks for that comprehensive rundown RioRico.It all depends on the street, eh? In some places my DA18-250 is the perfect street lens. Otherwheres might demand the Tamron 10-24, or F35-70, or various faster primes: Zenitar 16/2.8, Kiron 24/2, Komine 28/2 CFWA, SMC-FA or Yashica ML 50/1.4, Nikkor 85/2. Or slower primes: Tokina 21/3.8, Meyer Primagon 35/4.5, CZJ 50/2.8 preset (12 blades), S-M-C Takumar 135/3.5, Sakar 500/8 mirror (for discretion), etc. My favorite daytime street lens for San Francisco's Chinatown is the tiny Enna Tele-Sandmar 100/4.5, half the size of a Takumar 55/2.
As mentioned, sticking a SLR up to your face isn't really discrete. I shoot from the hip a lot with the Tamron 10-24 and Zenitar 16/2.8. Or I put the Tokina 21/3.8 or Sigma-Z 24/2.8 on a FF Praktica FX3 body and use the waist-level finder. Oh, but OP wants a wide sharp small prime for digital. That leaves just the DA 15/4 or 21/3.2 (expensive) or Zenitar 16/2.8 (slightly fishy). Good luck!
Comment by wadna posted on Lens for Street Photography at 27/06/2011 - 23:11
MarkD wrote:
Vignetting shouldn't be too bad at all on APS-C sensors.
I think it was tested on a Canon APS-C sensor which is marginally smaller than the K-7 sensor.Vignetting shouldn't be too bad at all on APS-C sensors.
Comment by wadna posted on Lens for Street Photography at 23/06/2011 - 02:43
Wow, the vignetting on the Voigtlander is hefty!
Comment by wadna posted on Lens for Street Photography at 22/06/2011 - 21:58
davidtrout wrote:
I depends on your street photography style. For me a much longer lens is a must, the DA*50-135mm is my tool for this job - at full 135 stretch.
I can frame much better and compress the background which should be as much part of the picture as the subject in street photography.
Wide angles might be ok for shooting from the hip when you are in close and don't want the subject to know what you are doing.
I like using wide angles for in close portaits, but the subject must be in on the act for this.
From a practical point of view the longer lens gives you a head start if things turn nasty.
David
Yes that's the other approach & I gather it's a good lens.I depends on your street photography style. For me a much longer lens is a must, the DA*50-135mm is my tool for this job - at full 135 stretch.
I can frame much better and compress the background which should be as much part of the picture as the subject in street photography.
Wide angles might be ok for shooting from the hip when you are in close and don't want the subject to know what you are doing.
I like using wide angles for in close portaits, but the subject must be in on the act for this.
From a practical point of view the longer lens gives you a head start if things turn nasty.
David
Comment by wadna posted on Lens for Street Photography at 22/06/2011 - 21:24
MarkD wrote:
Don't forget the Voigtlander 20mm. It's f/3.5 and manual focus but it is small and highly rated by all accounts. Probably a bit more expensive than the pentax 20mm though.
Sounds interesting. Thanks MarkD.Don't forget the Voigtlander 20mm. It's f/3.5 and manual focus but it is small and highly rated by all accounts. Probably a bit more expensive than the pentax 20mm though.
Comment by wadna posted on Lens for Street Photography at 22/06/2011 - 21:22
"I will rule out K18/3.5, it is not that great in the corners.....K20/4 seems to be much better lens IMHO. And to top it K20/4 is also cheaper a bit, but seems to be more rare. I was happy to get my for approxv155£. Both K18/3.5 and K20/4 are nicely corrected for distortion. Nice thing about K18 and K20 is that they share same filter size with FA31. I have 31ltd with K20 and they make a nice pair."
"Better forget about Tamron SP 17mm - just a mediocre lens. K18/3.5 is better, but still cannot match K20/4 (or I had a bad sample). I believe Tokina 17mm review is on PHOTOZONE.DE under Pentax section. "
More to think about. Thanks Vrrattko.
"Better forget about Tamron SP 17mm - just a mediocre lens. K18/3.5 is better, but still cannot match K20/4 (or I had a bad sample). I believe Tokina 17mm review is on PHOTOZONE.DE under Pentax section. "
More to think about. Thanks Vrrattko.
Comment by wadna posted on Lens for Street Photography at 22/06/2011 - 21:21
The Sigma 10-20mm, although a bit large, works well for street photography. It gives you a bit of choice on focal length for different situations, too. Also, since it's quite large, people think you have a telephoto on, so don't realise you're shooting them. I also use the Sigma 24mm f2.8 Super-Wide II for street photography, much smaller but a bit longer than you say you are looking for.