Yes, and that is why I said "my problem" as in... a problem for me. I did not intend to get into this debate here and I apologised for the "growing list" comment. Let's just let the topic go forward with the problem as posted.

Good idea to put the question to a poll to see how prevalent the problem is.

Drew

Hahaha What took you so long George?

Yes, I wondered if I should have included that last sentence. Maybe just take out the "growing list" statement. The "list" is not really available for public circulation as it my own personal list as to why I will or will not be buying a K10D. So far I have down, banding, flawed exposures with M lenses, totally ineffective sensor cleaning, and not compatible with TTL flash (my problem) to name some. There also seems to me an inordinate amount of physical problems cropping up with individuals posting here so I'm wondering if maybe there could be quality control problems too. I should have known that statement would have taken the topic on a different direction. Sorry for that, but I just wanted to point out the K10D owners (and previously the *ist D owners) seem overly sensitive about any trouble found and often lean towards user error first and sometimes quite rudely. Just my opinion.

Regards

Drew

PS: George, you almost never fail to make me get out my dictionary.

I don't find it is matsoberg that is "ad nauseuming" (no spelling lessons please )but it is the confusion added by all the advice offered by others that have not properly read his first two posts. Seems to me he has done a simple valid test with shake reduction OFF to prove the viewfinder is out of sync with reality. He was only asking if anyone else noticed this problem with the K10D and while it appears some are also having the same problem, others are confusing the matter with their flawed advice and matsoberg is just trying to clarify his question so they can "get it". Could it be that some of the K10D owners here are just not receptive to hearing about adding to the growing list of K10D problems?

Drew

Funny how the lens conversation went south (well...North I guess) right after you posted this pic. And just when I had finally convinced my wife that the 10-17mm was going to be my next purchase.

Thanks for that niblue

International First Place Award for Brevity

Stay tuned, I have more from this prolific source.

Drew

Ah haaaa!! The Peoples' Holiday. That's fantastick information. Thanks.

Drew

For me when it comes to a good photographic image the equipment details are as important as the brand of paint or brush used by the artist in a great painting. In my opinion it is all about the message and if the artist conveyed it to me.

Just my 2 cents

Regards

Drew

PS: Here's a great quote I made note of a few weeks ago:

A great photograph is one which shows us what we saw (or would have seen had we been there), but didn't notice. The photographer, or artist in the medium of photography, saw something that the ordinary person might see, but wouldn't SEE, without the insight and imagination of the artist. -G

Congratulations Lilly

I love a picture that tells a story and even better if that story is released to me slowly. If I owned this picture it could hang on my wall and keep me interested for a very long time without knowing all the answers to that story. I am just dying to know what the sign says to make this person so intent on it. The posture of the subject reminds me of the defiant student blocking a tank in the Tiananmen Square demonstration years ago.

You definitely deserve FIRST PRIZE Lilly, a great high quality capture using REFLECTION as the theme.

Good choice Daniel.

Regards

Drew

Sorry to interrupt the subject matter of this discussion (whatever it is ) but I must say - WOW, that is the best damn photo of a sunflower I've ever seen. Great capture Lilly.

OK, go back to whatever...