Clearly the lawyers wrote the T&Cs and covered every possible avenue where their client might be brought to book.

Some of this does I think relate to giving permission to publicly display the contribution across the media and across the world, without which the Internet would be a minefield of permissions in each market.

Some of it may be a bit OTT and could be used in a way beyond the initial intention.

Surely must be, unless someone has invented an intelligent sensor!

Where I would have saved a fortune is in the buy cheap buy twice (or more) scenario. Just how many other maker's lenses have I bought? I shudder to think. What I needed was the apprpriate Pentax lens, more expensive but bought only once.

Likewise for accessories. I have had generic batteries pass my way as parts of various deals, but when I receive them with all the writing rubbing off, badly fitting cases, etc., then the pristine Pentax battery in the package looks better made. The unfortunate counter to my argument is that on that ocassion the pristine Pentax battery was the only one that didn't work, but we keep a sense of humour about it.

Does this all amount to loyalty to Pentax? Actually, no, it doesn't. It's loyalty to whatever suits for the job in hand and it just so happens that cosistently Pentax have provided what pleased me. If I used Nikon I would only use Nikon accessories.

Not aimed at you Tim, but this has moved on and has been put back on topic. No point in prolonging the diversion, the moment has passed.

Off topic posts removed, please keep to the point.

Not really our area thoramay. Very little value in meters though, unless they can be used.

There are of course quite a few English Heritage properties that are open "any reasonable time" so these should be ideal places for dawn and dusk visits.

Others may be clearly visible from adjoining public footpaths.

Lots of photographic opportunties can be arranged by simply asking. For an example have a look at the images ADAPS members made in the John Rylands Library last month. Two years ago we did a similar thing at Manchester Town Hall.

www.adaps.org.uk

Go to the forum and look at the Images section.

How are you measuring the exposure? Don't forget you have to take an exposure measurement and adjust the camera settings to give the correct exposure. The bar graph in the viewfinder should be centred to obtain the camera's exposure recommendation.

However, if that's all we do it might as well be set to Av instead. Set the aperture, let the camera select the shutter speed.

Clearly using the flash all the time is not intended and something in the technique used is a bit amiss. It would be easier to show you how to use manual settings than decribe it, but perhaps go back to auto, establish that all is well. Then practice with making the settings manually.

Making digs is not debating, so time to get back on topic please.