Oh. That'll be why. Cheers!

Ah, I was referring to the list in the box at the left hand side of the screen labelled "Collections". The list of sub folders. Drives me spare it will not list these by added or date taken............. Makes finding things hard.

One thing I have been trying to work out is how to sort my collections by date which I find more intuitive than alphabetically and easier to find particular collections. Has anyone any ideas how to do this if at all as I cannot find out how? I may of course be simply daft/blind/moronic.

My Dad had one camera between 1973 and 2002 when he got a digital camera. The thing is technology and capability move on much more quickly with digital. I always assumed that to be a "pro" camera was as much to do with being built like a tank with extra slots for things and bigger batteries etc.......

I was considering the AF201g anyway as it's probably enough flash for me with tilt for basic bounce, and yeah the OB flash is pretty useless with the DA* lenses.

I have Budapest on my doorstep when I have time I would be taking lots of urban landscapes and architectural shots and high resolution I am sure would be amazing. If I look back at previous activity most of my pictures are landscape really. And the SR mentioned above. Big plus for me as I try to avoid flash anyway if possible as I don't like using it on my daughter.

I'm a little conflicted with the whole flippy screen thing. I got a m4/3 system specifically for that combination of flip screen and portability but have ended up not using it anywhere near as much as I thought I would have...... Been taking the K5 out every time I've had the chance and not missed the lack of flip screen etc...... What I would miss is the top lcd (:lol and my perception of much more solid build from K5-3 series!

I think you can wait and wait and wait for the next then next and so on update but I think it's gone far enough away from my K5 to be a worthwhile upgrade. Just had a big health scare (not quite over) so I think I will save up for it as the FF is too much and will be too expensive as will the K3 replacement when it comes. The lack of body reworking means the price comes in at a very competitive area, even with the lens kits. I think I can live without the OB flash as everything else seems to be such a big improvement. What I really want from Pentax is to carry on with the high performance compact bodies as my K5 with the 35mm 2.4 is a surprisingly portable little kit!

I am not sure exactly what astrotracing is but could be fun to find out!

I think the consensus then is that it's not for everyone!

After a health scare I've decided to save up for a new camera as I have been knocking up against the limitations of the K5 AF recently and outside of the lack of OB flash their are serious improvements in the areas that matter to me. Compared to my K5 that is. I always have a shoulder bag when out and about so the little AF201g for example wouldn't make any real difference to me (especially with a 2 year old that amount of stuff you carry anyway.........). If it did have a tilt screen etc it would be a lot more expensive probably and I would have not bothered considering it (there is no way I would afford the FF and the replacement for the K3/K3II would be much pricier as well no doubt). The kits look decent as well with the 16-85 and the 18-135 being offered at I think good prices.

I don't think after the K5 I could go to the KS-2 series as I am so used to the better build and little things like the top lcd to be comfortable really in the flagship models......... But that's just me! As I said for me I hardly use the flip screen on the Olympus and the K5 plus decent lens still smokes it for IQ so not sure what I'm going to do with that......

I don't think this is aimed at current K3 owners anyway. Things I like

That's impressive! Very well built cameras indeed. Never had a problem with mine though I did surprise myself at the shutter count since 2011 only being 4000 odd.......... Sure I'd taken more than that....???

I would have thought if you're buying a K3 you'ld already have some idea about how cameras/photography works. The screen, yeah fair point but that would require serious reworking of the body and they are working on that FF as well as releasing other bodies and lots of serious lenses. I understand they are not an enormous company and so resources can only go so far. It seems a perfectly fine mid life update really and for the price................. Compromises. It's to do with physical space apparently. The on board flashes are always a bit pathetic really anyway and with my m4/3 I found I don't use the flippy screen anywhere near as much as I thought I would when I got it and that was one of the main reasons for purchase.

I would be fine with keeping the compact body and compromising over flash versus GPS as many times in my previous career it would have been an absolute killer feature instead of messing around with multiple pieces of equipment. Also the new mini flash is hardly expensive and if you are carrying a big DSLR it's not much extra to have a little flash gun with you too. Spending £7-800 on a camera an extra £100 or so wouldn't make a massive difference to me at any rate and I'm poor. There will no doubt be a replacement in the non too distant future which will address all/some the concerns people have. How much was the add on GPS? And they are still selling the original K3 alongside at the moment anyway. I have a K5 and this would still be a massive jump for me. I'm just mildly bemused at the reaction over an on board flash............