bargain of the century, 37k clicks is nothing, just run in.

Congrats on your new purchase andeem

Good feeling isn't it Mark?

I'd wait until the lens arrives and see how well it performs...

If you are still in doubt I would check service prices from Johnson's, I'm sure any work they do is covered by guarantee.

Notice you have K110D as well Mac, which would suggest a transition to the K200D an inexpensive and easy transition if cost is a major consideration. If you have additional money set aside - then the K20D is an excellent camera, but the K-5 is becoming good value.

could it be for that?

was I right or was I wrong?, you say they are identical yet say there is at least one difference, therefore not identical. The Z-1p has a different finish, aesthetic and not technical:geek mode off:

I bought the Z-1p new and bought the grip soon afterwards as I found it improved handling...couldn't use the camera without the grip, yet after I bought the Z-1 (used) I didn't feel the need to buy a grip for it, actually the grip has never migrated off the Z-1p unless to change the battery or to have a service. Something I cannot explain

On the subject of grip or no-grip.

I have a Z-1 and very happy to use it without a grip.

I also have a Z-1p, I feel it necessary to use a grip with this camera.

Both cameras virtually identical in shape and design but I need a grip with one but not the other, how do you explain that?

Looking forward to K-3 reviews.

The third one from the left looks like an extension tube...

We have been acquired by cat, Tom comes in, takes residence and then saunters off when he's ready. I am really a dog person but with both of us working all hours of the day it would be inconsiderate to have a pet, but to have Tom come in from time to time just takes our minds off other things...

lovely cat Pete

you won't regret it - ergonomics wise I preferred the K20D and ran that with my K-5 as the main camera until I decided to go with one camera body, the K-5 was a big step change from the K-7.