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Comment by Don posted on "Photography Teachers?" Revisited at 20/01/2010 - 15:59
technoidiot wrote:
OK - moving slightly sideways from the above - I need a bit more info.
Tomorrow as long as it's not disgusting, I intend to go and try and get my homework shot for this week It's something I got before on the P&S and is quite nice - if I manage it I should get the 'thing' in sharp focus and there is plenty of background stuff which should be nicely out of focus [ I hope ]
BUT where I will be, is near some running water which I'd also like to have a go at . If it's running fast , and I would expect it to be, I'll need to 'freeze' it - so that means a small aperture - Yes ? So how small is small ? bearing in mind I'm not totally doing this manually - he told me to use Av so I'll stick with that and it's still too cold for the 50-200m lens .
I'm not expecting these to be marvellous - but I'm using these ideas to try and get to grips with Aperture
shutterspeed is how you freeze action, not aperture. Sure there is a correlation between wider apertures and faster shutterspeeds, but nonethe less it is shutterspeed that matters.OK - moving slightly sideways from the above - I need a bit more info.
Tomorrow as long as it's not disgusting, I intend to go and try and get my homework shot for this week It's something I got before on the P&S and is quite nice - if I manage it I should get the 'thing' in sharp focus and there is plenty of background stuff which should be nicely out of focus [ I hope ]
BUT where I will be, is near some running water which I'd also like to have a go at . If it's running fast , and I would expect it to be, I'll need to 'freeze' it - so that means a small aperture - Yes ? So how small is small ? bearing in mind I'm not totally doing this manually - he told me to use Av so I'll stick with that and it's still too cold for the 50-200m lens .
I'm not expecting these to be marvellous - but I'm using these ideas to try and get to grips with Aperture
for example:
you could stop your lens right down to f32 and set your iso higher and even add light to get a fast shutter speed (flash duration being the other way to get a faster shutter speed but that is another learning curve), if your shutter is fast enough, and there is enough light for a proper exposure you can freeze action.
another example, you could have your aperture wide open at f 1.4 and still get a slow enough shutter speed to blur motion by shooting when the light levels are low or by using nd filters to cut the light.. as long as you got a proper exposure, and slower shutter speeds you get motion blur.
womble is right that there is a correlation, between aperture and shutter speeds at any given iso, but the best way to think of this is "Shutter controls motion blu/freezing, at ANY given aperture/iso setting."
Comment by Don posted on Help needed at 20/01/2010 - 15:49
I don't care to hazzard a guess, but will add this:
My ds2 gets plenty of use in the studio.... despite owning 2 k10's...
My ds2 gets plenty of use in the studio.... despite owning 2 k10's...
Comment by Don posted on Camera comparison at 20/01/2010 - 15:10
gartmore wrote:
Some purists seem against the idea of combined video and stills but it has already happened, and I believe it isn't going to go away, with the Red and Scarlet HD video cameras which are being used by major Hollywood studios and remember Hollywood is a very conventional place where film still dominates.
I have very limited experience of editing on Windows. I tend to use Apple G5s with either Avid or now, more likey, Final Cut Pro. Adobe Premier is totally hopeless, very unstable and has more crashes than the Whacky Races. I hear that Sony Vegas is good though. I should also point out that I don't do my own editing in the sense of operating the machinery, there are professional film editors with more skill and knowledge than me!
One of the difficulties I can see is in the ergonomics. A DSLR is designed to be held against your face and take one shot at a time. To get decent video it will really have to be on a robust tripod with a proper fluid head.
Interstingly most of the work, and much of it is impressive, I have seen shot with DSLRs has been shot mute and the audio added later. Perhaps by the time you start adding mics, booms, and audio mixers and crew to the equation any advantage of size has been lost and you might well have just used a conventional camera in the first place.
I have shown this picture before but sometimes this is what you need to shoot a small movie (and the back seats were folded down too!:
Thanx for sharing!Don wrote:
I think it is inevitable that we should have a video section. More and more pro short form work is being shot on DSLRs. 'HD' magazine which is a high end trade glossy recently carried an extensive feature on various pop promos etc which had been shot mainly with Canons. The K7 isn't as good but that will change no doubt with future models. It was quite amusing to see professional matte boxes and follow focus kit which would cost more than a K7 with a relatively tiny camera behind.Anvh wrote:
Wow wonderful mix of formats.
I've no idea what programs you've for windows...
Photoshop extended can do some video but is limited though, adobe premiere maybe?
Does Autodesk maybe have some software?
alot of people like sony vegas... and premiere then there' pinnacle and avid, I think Gartmore is gonna be a lot more educated in those windoze platforms than I'd ever care to be...Wow wonderful mix of formats.
I've no idea what programs you've for windows...
Photoshop extended can do some video but is limited though, adobe premiere maybe?
Does Autodesk maybe have some software?
Some purists seem against the idea of combined video and stills but it has already happened, and I believe it isn't going to go away, with the Red and Scarlet HD video cameras which are being used by major Hollywood studios and remember Hollywood is a very conventional place where film still dominates.
I have very limited experience of editing on Windows. I tend to use Apple G5s with either Avid or now, more likey, Final Cut Pro. Adobe Premier is totally hopeless, very unstable and has more crashes than the Whacky Races. I hear that Sony Vegas is good though. I should also point out that I don't do my own editing in the sense of operating the machinery, there are professional film editors with more skill and knowledge than me!
One of the difficulties I can see is in the ergonomics. A DSLR is designed to be held against your face and take one shot at a time. To get decent video it will really have to be on a robust tripod with a proper fluid head.
Interstingly most of the work, and much of it is impressive, I have seen shot with DSLRs has been shot mute and the audio added later. Perhaps by the time you start adding mics, booms, and audio mixers and crew to the equation any advantage of size has been lost and you might well have just used a conventional camera in the first place.
I have shown this picture before but sometimes this is what you need to shoot a small movie (and the back seats were folded down too!:
I have to do everything myself right now, from planning to shooting to editing to sound music and script.
but I feel I'm getting an education, and when I can afford to hire people, I'll be in a better position to know the BS'rs from the real talent!
I do multi cam video shoots for weddings and both Gerri and I handle stills, every job is different!
yeah my van or my jimmy look pretty full when going out on a job...
Comment by Don posted on We need a video section! at 20/01/2010 - 14:31
Anvh wrote:
Wow wonderful mix of formats.
I've no idea what programs you've for windows...
Photoshop extended can do some video but is limited though, adobe premiere maybe?
Does Autodesk maybe have some software?
alot of people like sony vegas... and premiere then there' pinnacle and avid, I think Gartmore is gonna be a lot more educated in those windoze platforms than I'd ever care to be...Wow wonderful mix of formats.
I've no idea what programs you've for windows...
Photoshop extended can do some video but is limited though, adobe premiere maybe?
Does Autodesk maybe have some software?
Comment by Don posted on We need a video section! at 19/01/2010 - 20:23
johnriley wrote:
When you say you would like a video section, what exactly did you have in mind that would be needed?
Well John, I'd like to see a place (like user froum, where there is a section broken down into 3 parts: Shooting, editing, sharing.When you say you would like a video section, what exactly did you have in mind that would be needed?
That way we could lump all our questions and answers in specific threads, and a sharing section that has an easy to use "Youtube" button and the ability to embed youtube, vimeo links.
I like sharing ideas and comparing notes, but maybe I sorta hijacked Bens thread (sorry Ben), in hindsite, it would make sense to to have a forum section dedicated to video.
There's a market of videographers out ther wishing for top end canons that would never in a million years look at Pentax...unless....there was a palce where you could find some decent Pentax advice and support... you see where I'm going with this????
Comment by Don posted on We need a video section! at 19/01/2010 - 20:22
impotentspider wrote:
At least the border is sharp
yeah you wouldn't want to post something like that on a canon forum... poor cannonites (not to be confused with Canaanites) going into epileptic like seizures.... it's not sharp, not sharp, sh-sh-sshh-shhh- arp....At least the border is sharp
could kill the poor misguided morons...
lol!
Comment by Don posted on terrible photographs at 19/01/2010 - 19:13
The video formats aren't the big issue really, they all got thier pros and cons...
the real issue is post production... nle's are videos answer to photoshop/lightroom/aperture...
I used the iLife suite for that project mostly....
final cut express handles everything I've thrown at it.
I have dv, hdv, and avchd cameras, animated gifs, and quicktime files (including stopmotion animations off my Pentax) all thrown in that one project!
the real issue is post production... nle's are videos answer to photoshop/lightroom/aperture...
I used the iLife suite for that project mostly....
final cut express handles everything I've thrown at it.
I have dv, hdv, and avchd cameras, animated gifs, and quicktime files (including stopmotion animations off my Pentax) all thrown in that one project!
Comment by Don posted on We need a video section! at 19/01/2010 - 18:14
looks good to me.
Comment by Don posted on terrible photographs at 19/01/2010 - 18:09
bwichmawr wrote:
No, please. I do hope not.
you'd be free to not look!No, please. I do hope not.
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Fun movie you have there Don
Still thinking of getting a K7?
Video also sounds fun in my ears, my uncle has the K-X but gives nothing about the video mode in it and I want to use it every time.. it's so unfair
thank you. I haze a voice over in progress, that tells astory interview style about becoming a vampire and the movie is more or less a flashback.. it's just an art peice for practice.Fun movie you have there Don
Still thinking of getting a K7?
Video also sounds fun in my ears, my uncle has the K-X but gives nothing about the video mode in it and I want to use it every time.. it's so unfair
I'm waiting patiently for my new camera. on the fence between the k7 and kx.
will decide by the time wedding season is going full tilt..
Comment by Don posted on We need a video section! at 19/01/2010 - 17:41
My teacher was great, working pro and teacher. Learned alot from him.
Why would I scale back my workload to go to school?
Because I realized that everything I knew, as a self taught photographer, I had learned from a guy that started off knowing absolutely nothing...ME!
I've never met a person that couldn't teach me something...