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Posted 20/01/2010 - 08:43
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Both very good. i would say 2 is from the DS. Either way, it makes you wonder why you need anything more sometimes.
Posted 20/01/2010 - 09:10
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This is difficult because the images are different and the resolution on screen is limited, but I'm going to agree with smc.
The first from the K20D and the second from the *istDS. Both are excellent anyway, as pointed out.
The first from the K20D and the second from the *istDS. Both are excellent anyway, as pointed out.
Best regards, John
Posted 20/01/2010 - 09:59
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Another one for the 1-K20D and 2-DS.
They are very similar, which is not surprising. If you take an average of many pictures it might be more evident, but clearly and as time progressess, its going to be particular aspects of IQ, like extreme low noise or features like HDR and fps that are going to make people move to a new camera.
They are very similar, which is not surprising. If you take an average of many pictures it might be more evident, but clearly and as time progressess, its going to be particular aspects of IQ, like extreme low noise or features like HDR and fps that are going to make people move to a new camera.
Posted 20/01/2010 - 10:08
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The fact is both cameras have performed superbly well as beautifully crafted tools. And also the photographer has used them to perfection as a top class artist/craftsman does. The closeness of the image quality suggests to me that the desire to pack more and more pixels into a camera body is probably more to do with marketing than with achieving ultimate photographic excellence.
Posted 20/01/2010 - 11:23
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On the face of these images David, but if we were making A3 exhibition prints then the difference would be very obvious.
Best regards, John
Posted 20/01/2010 - 12:12
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I'm still not saying which is which and I take John's point about A3 prints, when fully zoomed in on screen the K20 image is 'smoother'. However, these are destined to be actor's 10x8 headshots and printed at 10X8, or indeed printed in 'Spotlight', at which size they still can't be told apart.
Ken
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
“We must avoid however, snapping away, shooting quickly and without thought, overloading ourselves with unnecessary images that clutter our memory and diminish the clarity of the whole.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson -
Posted 20/01/2010 - 12:31
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I think when all else is equal, you get sharper (though lower resolution) pictures from the DS. Picture 1 is sharper, so the DS gets my vote for that.
~Pete
Posted 20/01/2010 - 13:02
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I'd say picture 1 was taken with the Ds.
I miss my Ds and sometimes tbh regret the "upgrade" to the K20D.
I miss my Ds and sometimes tbh regret the "upgrade" to the K20D.
Posted 20/01/2010 - 13:14
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I use a DS (and a K100DSuper). Regrettably no experience of the K20.
I find the DS output excellent for my needs, which don't include A3 prints! Any problems are usually user error, not a shortcoming of the camera.
I think no 1 is from the DS.
I find the DS output excellent for my needs, which don't include A3 prints! Any problems are usually user error, not a shortcoming of the camera.
I think no 1 is from the DS.
Posted 20/01/2010 - 15:01
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I've gone 1-K20, 2-DS
My reasoning is that I find my K10 resolves extremely fine features such as hair rather better than my *istDL2 does. The DL2 packs the same sensor as the DS, and picture 2 looks as I would expect output from my DL2 to look.
Both look really good though, and as said above I very much doubt you'd notice the difference up to ~10x8 unless you were really looking for it.
My reasoning is that I find my K10 resolves extremely fine features such as hair rather better than my *istDL2 does. The DL2 packs the same sensor as the DS, and picture 2 looks as I would expect output from my DL2 to look.
Both look really good though, and as said above I very much doubt you'd notice the difference up to ~10x8 unless you were really looking for it.
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Posted 20/01/2010 - 15:10
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I don't care to hazzard a guess, but will add this:
My ds2 gets plenty of use in the studio.... despite owning 2 k10's...
My ds2 gets plenty of use in the studio.... despite owning 2 k10's...
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Posted 20/01/2010 - 17:38
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I've had A3 prints done from some of my DS images, sometimes heavily cropped images, and they still hold their own in club competitions and exhibitions.
david
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Posted 20/01/2010 - 19:34
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Ken your examples show some very good examples of quality from Pentax DSLRs. I would guess that No1 was the isDS 6mp camera.
I too have printed A3 from my isDL2 and was amazed at the quality. I confined my Canon 5D full frame camera to back-up on the results of my isDL2 tests.
However the Pentax K20 is superb at high ISO low light performance. I am amazed at its quality in low light.
I too have printed A3 from my isDL2 and was amazed at the quality. I confined my Canon 5D full frame camera to back-up on the results of my isDL2 tests.
However the Pentax K20 is superb at high ISO low light performance. I am amazed at its quality in low light.
Friendly Regards
Graham
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