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Comment by Dave Evans posted on had a call from srs :-) at 27/01/2011 - 20:14
bladerunneruk wrote:
I've had a call today from srs to say they've just got some more K5's in.
One has got my name on it
just got to wait until saturday now - sigh
I have had my name down since the 5th and I believe i'm near the top of the list, I would have expected a call myself,I've had a call today from srs to say they've just got some more K5's in.
One has got my name on it
just got to wait until saturday now - sigh
Do you mean for Saturday delivery?
Comment by Dave Evans posted on had a call from srs :-) at 27/01/2011 - 19:25
bretti_kivi wrote:
ha, SRS don't have stock either and are right now fulfilling orders placed over three weeks ago. Yes, the price has dropped a tad, but.....
Bret
They are still paying the cash back on all the orders placed before the 15th, My order went in on the 5th Jan and I thought it would have been with me now.ha, SRS don't have stock either and are right now fulfilling orders placed over three weeks ago. Yes, the price has dropped a tad, but.....
Bret
Dave
Comment by Dave Evans posted on The Future of K5 Prices at 26/01/2011 - 12:40
Offertonhatter wrote:
At low ISO there is not much in it really, we are talking about only 2MP difference, which when printing is not much IQ difference in reality. However at high ISO the K-5 it is something else entirely. So far, when I push the K-5 to High ISO's it easily out performs the K20D by two to three stops.
In fact today I did some portrait shots at ISO320, and they are better than the K20D at a similar ISO, not by much, but there is an improvement.
However, both the K-7 and the K-5 will out perform the Alpha that the OP had, mainly due to the fact that tech has moved on. But, and it is minor, it is whether the OP can afford the K-5. If he can, then that is the camera to go for. If not, then the K-7 will be a very worthy alternative.
However users going from the K-7 to K-5 is a different matter.
I suppose it comes down to step changes.
K100D(and eqv) to K10D - Big difference
K10D to K20D - Small changes involving ISO and IQ
K20D to K-7 - No IQ change, but build/fps/shutter changes
K-7 to K-5 - again quite small, but ISO and FPS
But step over a model and the differences become more apparant
K10D - K-7 IQ, ISO, build, shutter, AF, etc
K20D - K-5 - Again ISO, IQ, build, shutter, AF, etc
Hope this helps.
Yes it did help a great deal and many thanks to yourself and the others that replied,Dave Evans wrote:
While I don't wish to hijack this thread I will stay ot as much as I can while maybe helping the op as well, You say "it's IQ is in another league, especially taking these into consideration",
I have a K7 and very pleased with it, Does the K5 have better IQ at low iso, also forget less noise at high iso for now but does the image loose much IQ at high iso due to a drop in DR ect,
I do think the upgrade from K7 To K5 may benifit myself, but it's been hard trying to find an answer to my low iso question.
Dave.
No problem Dave. I was only going from personal experience when comparing my K20D (which is the same sensor as the K-7, in spite of Pentax say) and my K-5. While I don't wish to hijack this thread I will stay ot as much as I can while maybe helping the op as well, You say "it's IQ is in another league, especially taking these into consideration",
I have a K7 and very pleased with it, Does the K5 have better IQ at low iso, also forget less noise at high iso for now but does the image loose much IQ at high iso due to a drop in DR ect,
I do think the upgrade from K7 To K5 may benifit myself, but it's been hard trying to find an answer to my low iso question.
Dave.
At low ISO there is not much in it really, we are talking about only 2MP difference, which when printing is not much IQ difference in reality. However at high ISO the K-5 it is something else entirely. So far, when I push the K-5 to High ISO's it easily out performs the K20D by two to three stops.
In fact today I did some portrait shots at ISO320, and they are better than the K20D at a similar ISO, not by much, but there is an improvement.
However, both the K-7 and the K-5 will out perform the Alpha that the OP had, mainly due to the fact that tech has moved on. But, and it is minor, it is whether the OP can afford the K-5. If he can, then that is the camera to go for. If not, then the K-7 will be a very worthy alternative.
However users going from the K-7 to K-5 is a different matter.
I suppose it comes down to step changes.
K100D(and eqv) to K10D - Big difference
K10D to K20D - Small changes involving ISO and IQ
K20D to K-7 - No IQ change, but build/fps/shutter changes
K-7 to K-5 - again quite small, but ISO and FPS
But step over a model and the differences become more apparant
K10D - K-7 IQ, ISO, build, shutter, AF, etc
K20D - K-5 - Again ISO, IQ, build, shutter, AF, etc
Hope this helps.
Apologies to the op for interfering with his thread but I did not expect the response I got.
Dave
Comment by Dave Evans posted on K7 - Worth It? at 14/01/2011 - 23:47
Monobod wrote:
16.3Mp. Slant and tilt level indicator. In camera hand held HDR. How low an ISO are you talking about? Even at 400 the K-5 is better.
But I agree the K-7 is a worthy camera and I will keep using mine as well as the K-5 to save changing from wide to long lenses.
Thanks for the replies guys, but lets look at like for like and say both are at iso 200 does the K5 have better IQ than the K7, from the images I have looked at (tons) there does not seem anything in it as Mike P pointed out,16.3Mp. Slant and tilt level indicator. In camera hand held HDR. How low an ISO are you talking about? Even at 400 the K-5 is better.
But I agree the K-7 is a worthy camera and I will keep using mine as well as the K-5 to save changing from wide to long lenses.
Monobod, yes those improvements would help so i'm going for it. I really do like the looks of some of the HDR shots I have seen.
Dave
Comment by Dave Evans posted on K7 - Worth It? at 14/01/2011 - 14:14
[quote:3496ace15f="Offertonhatter"]It is a tough one to answer.
I did look at the K-7 before I got the K-5, due to the fact that although my K20D was getting on a bit (nearly 3 years old and over 30000 shots), would the K-7 give me much more than my K20D (apart from better AF and shutter)
The reality, for me, was that, although the K-7 was a major improvement over the K20D when it came to AF, shutter, build, metering etc, the reality was that as it used the same sensor as the K20D, and at the end of the day, the IQ would be the same.
however, as you have come from an A700, you may find that the performance is a big improvement.
It all comes down to two things really.
1. Do you really need 7FPS. ie Do you do a lot of nature or sports?
2. Do you need excellent low light performance. ie, the ability to take photos at extreme low light such as very dim with the kit lens (ie F3.5-F5.6) and hand held, or you take a lot of interior shots handheld.
If the answer to both is no, then the K-7 will be the camera for you.
However if either is yes, then seriously consider the K-5 as it's IQ is in another league, especially taking these into consideration".
Hope this helps.
While I don't wish to hijack this thread I will stay ot as much as I can while maybe helping the op as well, You say "it's IQ is in another league, especially taking these into consideration",
I have a K7 and very pleased with it, Does the K5 have better IQ at low iso, also forget less noise at high iso for now but does the image loose much IQ at high iso due to a drop in DR ect,
I do think the upgrade from K7 To K5 may benifit myself, but it's been hard trying to find an answer to my low iso question.
Dave.
I did look at the K-7 before I got the K-5, due to the fact that although my K20D was getting on a bit (nearly 3 years old and over 30000 shots), would the K-7 give me much more than my K20D (apart from better AF and shutter)
The reality, for me, was that, although the K-7 was a major improvement over the K20D when it came to AF, shutter, build, metering etc, the reality was that as it used the same sensor as the K20D, and at the end of the day, the IQ would be the same.
however, as you have come from an A700, you may find that the performance is a big improvement.
It all comes down to two things really.
1. Do you really need 7FPS. ie Do you do a lot of nature or sports?
2. Do you need excellent low light performance. ie, the ability to take photos at extreme low light such as very dim with the kit lens (ie F3.5-F5.6) and hand held, or you take a lot of interior shots handheld.
If the answer to both is no, then the K-7 will be the camera for you.
However if either is yes, then seriously consider the K-5 as it's IQ is in another league, especially taking these into consideration".
Hope this helps.
While I don't wish to hijack this thread I will stay ot as much as I can while maybe helping the op as well, You say "it's IQ is in another league, especially taking these into consideration",
I have a K7 and very pleased with it, Does the K5 have better IQ at low iso, also forget less noise at high iso for now but does the image loose much IQ at high iso due to a drop in DR ect,
I do think the upgrade from K7 To K5 may benifit myself, but it's been hard trying to find an answer to my low iso question.
Dave.
Comment by Dave Evans posted on K7 - Worth It? at 14/01/2011 - 13:02
bretti_kivi wrote:
I was assured on the phone that that's "not an issue".
Well, it is a bit of one, because I need it on the 25th and I would have liked to have had some time to play first, but hey, I'm supposed to be a pro
Anyway. For the cashback it's not an issue as the receipt will be dated with the date upon which you placed the order, whether it is fulfilled on that date or not.
Bret
Thanks Bret, I was not aware of that.I was assured on the phone that that's "not an issue".
Well, it is a bit of one, because I need it on the 25th and I would have liked to have had some time to play first, but hey, I'm supposed to be a pro
Anyway. For the cashback it's not an issue as the receipt will be dated with the date upon which you placed the order, whether it is fulfilled on that date or not.
Bret
Dave.
Comment by Dave Evans posted on K-5 out of stock? at 13/01/2011 - 20:34
bretti_kivi wrote:
... ha, SRS will not have stock in until early next week.....
Bret
I have been waiting myself for SRS since the 5th, not long compaired to some but if I don't get the £120 cashback I will leave it untill prices drop.... ha, SRS will not have stock in until early next week.....
Bret
Comment by Dave Evans posted on K-5 out of stock? at 13/01/2011 - 19:54
beakynet wrote:
Does this mean that only 19 of us have the K-7? How is Pentax going to survive on that level of income?
Can I make it 20, It really is a great camera.terje-l wrote:
Re the poll options, what about "Interested, but cannot afford it"?
I did think of can afford it but other half not allowing it...Re the poll options, what about "Interested, but cannot afford it"?
Does this mean that only 19 of us have the K-7? How is Pentax going to survive on that level of income?
Comment by Dave Evans posted on Who has, will have a K-7? at 17/09/2009 - 11:28
It's here with more info,
http://translate.google.de/translate?u=http://www.digitalkamera.de/Meldung/Die_n...
http://translate.google.de/translate?u=http://www.digitalkamera.de/Meldung/Die_n...
Comment by Dave Evans posted on K-m/K200D replacement announced tomorrow? at 16/09/2009 - 23:59
I have had my name down since the 5th and I believe i'm near the top of the list, I would have expected a call myself,
Do you mean for Saturday delivery?
I'm starting to look forward to something enjoyable, since new year all of my family have been ill one way or another, including a trip to hospital for one of us, just the wait for battery charging tempering my excitement, oh and fitting those new 1TB hard drives to the computer too...
Dave