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Comment by ChrisA posted on manual focus problems on k10d at 01/08/2007 - 09:02
Thought: does being a member of Pentax User count for anything in terms of service?
Comment by ChrisA posted on manual focus problems on k10d at 01/08/2007 - 08:59
customer service and stuff...
Comment by ChrisA posted on manual focus problems on k10d at 31/07/2007 - 22:28
Yeah maybe, but would you rather go eight weeks without the camera? Last repair took that long. I won't do that until it is totally unusable!!
So for now I will live with it.
Argh!
Last time I got something fixed at Pentax (I forgot what it was) they did it in only a few days.
That was years ago though. In the days of customer service and stuff...
Comment by ChrisA posted on manual focus problems on k10d at 31/07/2007 - 22:11
I suppose I could have this repaired, but now that I know exactly where the sensors are I can compensate for that.
I would go mad trying to put up with that.
Comment by ChrisA posted on manual focus problems on k10d at 31/07/2007 - 21:59
but might use f8 to ensure the whole face is in focus. Maybe under studio flash we would use f11 or f16. DOF will cover most things in this case.
The point about SR is a good one. If switched on whilst on a tripod it could cause shake problems which would negate the validity of the test.
Also, if SR was causing shake on the tripod, you'd expect no part of the picture to be sharp. This isn't the case.
Take a look specifically at the large version of focus_IGP7303xx in DXG's pics.
Either he is not focusing correctly, or the camera isn't. This picture shows a huge error.
Edit: removed a bit that was at best confusing and at worst b******s
Comment by ChrisA posted on manual focus problems on k10d at 31/07/2007 - 09:19
John has already mentioned that the test chart is not consistently straight and parallel to the lens axis which renders some of the shots less than conclusive.
Although the calibration on the chart won't correspond to reality (it's only right when it's straight and at 45 degrees to the vertical), I think a marker behind the middle will still be the same distance behind, as the corresponding marker is in front, provided the chart is flat.
But it is faintly suggestive of potentially poor technique in other areas.
However, it's his last example, focus_IGP7303xx, that is most noteworthy.
If the camera is telling him that the middle marker is the bit in focus, I'm struggling to see how there isn't a problem.
I'm very interested to see how this all turns out..
Comment by ChrisA posted on manual focus problems on k10d at 31/07/2007 - 09:02
I've run this on pages of text and real objects. obviously with tripod, etc... Maybe my methods were flawed in some way?
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So, today I downloaded the test chart, set everything up just right, and wouldn't you know my camera looks fine. (Perhaps my methods today are flawed?? )
This is a good point. Getting the result that confirms the expected result doesn't, in itself, make it any more likely to be right or wrong, just more believable. That's been the problem faced down the centuries by scientists responsible for overturning the accepted wisdom of the day.
Comment by ChrisA posted on manual focus problems on k10d at 31/07/2007 - 07:34
I don't know what you mean by the "green hexagon".
It's the only reliable way of knowing when the camera thinks it's in focus. You'll also get it at the bottom of the viewfinder when it's in AF and it thinks it's focused.
Comment by ChrisA posted on manual focus problems on k10d at 30/07/2007 - 20:45
The real question has remained unanswered - are your images sharp? That is, your real pictures. Because if they are the error is not significant except for the photography of test charts.
It would drive me completely nuts if I had this situation. I was hugely relieved to get a result for my camera that convinced me that it's set up Ok, to a precision higher than I'm able to measure.
The thing about the test charts, is that they give you confidence in the machinery's behaviour under controlled conditions - so you trust it when the conditions aren't so controlled.
If his chart was even close to straight, and the camera said he was focused properly on the central marker in his example focus_IGP7303xx, something is well wrong. That one is at least (root 2) cm (ie 14mm) wrong in a meter - hard to imagine that much experimental error.
Comment by ChrisA posted on manual focus problems on k10d at 30/07/2007 - 20:37


But the guarantee will run out.
It soft focused and I waited until I had the K10D in my hands (and 14 days before the end of the warranty) to have the istD serviced.
It's buy two of the things so that you're only without one at a time.
Actually, you're supposed to have a backup aren't you...