Glad Andy won today. If he`d lost it would be a worse headache caused by commiserations.

That`s a good lead Gwynn.

Hello Stefan, hope all is well with you. Must have a drink to absent forumers as soon as me tea has gone down.

Sorry HG, Iv`e just poured my punishment. Purely for inner cleanliness you understand. Alcohol is a solvent so it must be good for dissolving cholesterol too.

Thanks for the suggestions both of you. I can`t fathom it either. JAK, tried all of the things you said. It`s with the genuine Pentax lithium battery plus I tried the spare Hama one too. Now Iv`e reset to default settings it`s been fine. Sbrads, I leave this camera on spot focus. Just one of those idiosyncrasies I guess.

Did you know that when Vimto is mixed up it becomes Vomit?

While on hols I had the red LED flashing on the front of the K30. The camera would shut down with data still on the screen but would not accept any input from me. Each time this happened I turned off then on and all was ok for a while. I reset everything back to default settings and all has been well with it since. I wonder if anyone else had this experience.

Also I can`t find a way back to "Reset to factory settings." Anyone know if this is possible please, just in casr it happens again.

I asked SRS when they would be available.

Gwynn, you are a heroine!

Guess where Cedric and Mrs Cedric are holidaying next year? We have already planned a week on Skye followed by a week in Oban. As they do online shopping I think a wee taster is called for.

Sorry Gwynn, just re read your last. I`m drinking a toast to that. Then I don`t need much of an excuse.

Especially nice thick slices of crusty white bread toast with real butter. With a good spread of Marmite. Had some Marmite chocolate a couple of Christmasses ago wicked flavour. Just can`t find it again.

Much better than discussing who names what and why!!!!