I think Ned is to blame, here look at what the H90 can do http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/pentax_optio_h90_review/
I've the idea the two camera's would be quite equal.

Edumad I can't agree fully with you.
Some here including me shoot in raw and try to make a shot with the best possible exposure instead of having the best possible image straight out of the camera.
In my opinion both are equally skilled but one group take PP as serious step into their photography while others try to reduce the amount of PP and the only difference between the two is the way they expose a photo.

I can even say that people who try to have the best photo straight out of their camera are the lazy ones because they don't go through the effort of maxing out the possibilities of their digital camera

We are going quite of topic about this matter because I don't believe this has anything to do with being artistic, that's purely an aspect of the photographer and we shouldn't blame our tools for not being able to be creative/artistic

Wonderful bokeh... *sighs* more money need to be spending

yes Like this I believe, Japanese sounds the most like Italian I've been told

Sorry I ain't use to think in Pounds.
Just see that the Nikon 50 f/1.8 goes for £109 so does that price sound as a good offer for a DA 50 f/1.7 WR :

I know that quite a lot Canon and Nikon users buy such lenses for beside a telezoom and a kitlens so it's strange that Pentax does not have anything to offer at that range.

As for the other lenses are these prices better?
24/2.8 WR or 28/2.8 WR £209
35/2 WR £179
50/1.7 WR £109
85/2 WR £229
135/2.8 WR £279
200/4 WR £299

Just making them up of course.
The point is don't you think there would be a market for cheap primes?

I would love to see the current camera models coupled with a 18-55, 50 or 35 coupled as kit lens.
And personally I think they should make them WR to give it the edge over the competition.

Well I found a way.
When you've EV compensation set on the front e-dial in Av mode you can lock your exposure and turn that E-dial to change your shutter-speed and the back E-dial to change aperture (together with the shutter-speed because the camera maintains exposure) and in that mode bracketing does not change the aperture although I was hoping I could find a way in M mode to do that.

Yes I know but I didn't had a tripod so used my bag and a remote, touching the camera would than have resulted in shifting of the frame so that isn't an acceptable option.
Even if it was on a tripod, touching it that way can make your camera move as well.

Yeah same here, I thought it was following MTF rule so tried to change all the option that was set on that without any effect.

But I-berg is the wanting of the sharpest lens or the best camera not as much a crime as photoshop?
It does not have much to do with making artistic photos, although a certain lens or indeed photoshop can help you get the result you envisioned like HG said so well and I think there is the line of the misuse.

We don't have any right to complain about the lens quality or that of the cameras, when we look back a century ago and what kind of photos they make it becomes only more clear that the photographer (model) is the key in making a good photo.

I'm actually still hoping they will do some cheap primes like they used to do.
Maybe something like a DA 24/2.8 or 28/2.8, a 35/2, 50/1.7, 135/2.8 and 200/4 with a new price around the £200 to £300... they could ask £50 more if they include weather sealing

Don't you think this might work or has the world move to zooms now?

Yes that's it

Isn't this contradicting each other?
Also developing of the photo has always been the part of photography just as much as taking the actual good photo, only because you've greater control and more tools with digital medium all of an sudden people using them are lazy?

Will do I-berg

but John you've the bracket option in manual though, I thought you could control it with Tv shift but that isn't true.