Thank you Oggy, I'll manage somehow

I agree John but it isn't personal like this forum is, a good word from you or any other member of this forum, certainly Mike with his extensive lens collection is worth much more then any review in my opinion.

You see I've good suggestions sometimes

Mowog you forget a problem, it's a photo forum so you probably would have a problem selecting a neutral colour that works good for all photos as back ground.

Finally it works, here is a less clipped version.




Funny how easy it is to try things

Watching the Annie Leibovitz movie now and during a shoot I've seen 4 brands of camera, how many does she have???

Still it's different John and it isn't "PUF" if you know what I mean.

Thank you Nigel, this was without Sotfen and without a catch-light.

The catchlight doesn't work in portrait mode because when you orientate the flash up so with normal orientation you will be turning it side ways and not really up the flash so you will be look at the sides of the catch-light.
Just try it and you see what I mean

I was using quite a long lens here so I tilted the flash a bit more forward instead of straight up, so I think you actually see the flash in his eyes.

I believe the stofen only makes a difference when you aim the flash directly at your subjects, just try it out and see.

Thank you Andrew and I agree with you. I've a few staged shots from kids but they aren't that great it's the moment where they are themselves that you need to capture.
I was also helping them the whole time so was covered in paint as well in the end but it was water-based so I and the the camera didn't mind.

Roy I've another version ready that isn't clipped however Deviantart where I load them on doesn't work so well at the moments so need to try it a bit later. I hope that one fall more in the taste with everyone.

If it only was a Pentax

From here I don't mind Roy although I'm a bit more careful with this photo because the girl isn't part of my family and I don't want an angry mom after me
But Like I said members here don't have to worry, you've my trust.

Roy the problem with the processing you did is you move the focus from the eyes away to the ring she is painting. If you move the focus with a lens that wouldn't have been a problem but now the whole image is soft.
If it was just her face I would have liked it but not now.