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Posted 24/05/2014 - 21:54
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If people crave some kind of response for their images may I suggest going to your local camera clubs and entering competitions. The judges are pretty much compelled to provide at least a word of comment.
Or perhaps do a photography A level where you are encouraged to be understand what makes a good image and how to evaluate your own images and write it down for the consumption of others. Again you can write your own critiques without feeling disappointed that you are lacking in having your ego stroked.( even if it is the wrong way).
As I've already said, I would love to see people who want a critique, analyzing their own images and indicating what they would like comment on.
As for cliques, as far as I have seen over the years they are not exclusive and I'd say they are more groups of online friends, or similar thinkers, or similar shooters, or gear heads, or regional neigbours, or mutual appreciaters. People seem to move in and out of the comment groups and mobility seems to there if required.
Or perhaps do a photography A level where you are encouraged to be understand what makes a good image and how to evaluate your own images and write it down for the consumption of others. Again you can write your own critiques without feeling disappointed that you are lacking in having your ego stroked.( even if it is the wrong way).
As I've already said, I would love to see people who want a critique, analyzing their own images and indicating what they would like comment on.
As for cliques, as far as I have seen over the years they are not exclusive and I'd say they are more groups of online friends, or similar thinkers, or similar shooters, or gear heads, or regional neigbours, or mutual appreciaters. People seem to move in and out of the comment groups and mobility seems to there if required.
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Posted 24/05/2014 - 23:03
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fair points smeggy
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Posted 24/05/2014 - 23:33
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dougf8 wrote:
As I've already said, I would love to see people who want a critique, analyzing their own images and indicating what they would like comment on.
To me the most valuable critique is that which focusses upon something you haven't yourself thought of.
As I've already said, I would love to see people who want a critique, analyzing their own images and indicating what they would like comment on.
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Posted 24/05/2014 - 23:38
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Smeggypants wrote:
Well, read their minds and tell us which bit they haven't thought about.dougf8 wrote:
As I've already said, I would love to see people who want a critique, analyzing their own images and indicating what they would like comment on.
To me the most valuable critique is that which focusses upon something you haven't yourself thought of.As I've already said, I would love to see people who want a critique, analyzing their own images and indicating what they would like comment on.
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Posted 25/05/2014 - 00:09
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dougf8 wrote:
LOL very good. Smeggypants wrote:
Well, read their minds and tell us which bit they haven't thought about.dougf8 wrote:
As I've already said, I would love to see people who want a critique, analyzing their own images and indicating what they would like comment on.
To me the most valuable critique is that which focusses upon something you haven't yourself thought of.As I've already said, I would love to see people who want a critique, analyzing their own images and indicating what they would like comment on.
My point is I find it better to leave the floor open without predetermining what kind of critique to focus on. I'd rather people just look at my pics with a non biased mind and comment on whatever they want, if at all.
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Posted 25/05/2014 - 00:22
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Smeggypants wrote:
My point is I find it better to leave the floor open without predetermining what kind of critique to focus on. I'd rather people just look at my pics with a non biased mind and comment on whatever they want, if at all.
You have the benefit of an indestructible ego.
My point is I find it better to leave the floor open without predetermining what kind of critique to focus on. I'd rather people just look at my pics with a non biased mind and comment on whatever they want, if at all.
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Posted 26/05/2014 - 14:59
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Yes, I find that helps to get more views and comments.
But, its true that personality does come into it - I mean a persons 'online persona', something about them to latch on to and feed or bounce off. Some of us do tend to follow each other around - call that a clique or not, but its not 'exclusive' - based on past experience and memory of things we've debated about. That adds a lot to the interest of it all and has an effect on who you might respond to more than others.
But, its true that personality does come into it - I mean a persons 'online persona', something about them to latch on to and feed or bounce off. Some of us do tend to follow each other around - call that a clique or not, but its not 'exclusive' - based on past experience and memory of things we've debated about. That adds a lot to the interest of it all and has an effect on who you might respond to more than others.
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Posted 26/05/2014 - 15:35
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Smeggypants wrote:
Yes, that's why in your case I'm confident that when you post a picture, you've already put some thought into what you think of it dougf8 wrote:
As I've already said, I would love to see people who want a critique, analyzing their own images and indicating what they would like comment on.
To me the most valuable critique is that which focusses upon something you haven't yourself thought of.As I've already said, I would love to see people who want a critique, analyzing their own images and indicating what they would like comment on.
I'm not always so confident, which is why I tend to agree with Doug, that a bit of self-analysis would be helpful.
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Posted 26/05/2014 - 15:42
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Often I find people are looking for totally different things. I might value some aspects of my pics, something technical maybe, but if I say that I'll just be told its all about 'seeing', or something like that.
But this is not just about responses to photos and critque - the forum has a life in many other ways as well. There are still too few people participating in very interesting topics (IMO), eg those concerning HDR and exposure / metering choices. We should all have something to add to those, or questions to ask.
But this is not just about responses to photos and critque - the forum has a life in many other ways as well. There are still too few people participating in very interesting topics (IMO), eg those concerning HDR and exposure / metering choices. We should all have something to add to those, or questions to ask.
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Posted 26/05/2014 - 16:00
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ChrisA wrote:
I'm not always so confident, which is why I tend to agree with Doug, that a bit of self-analysis would be helpful.
Fair comment Smeggypants wrote:
Yes, that's why in your case I'm confident that when you post a picture, you've already put some thought into what you think of it dougf8 wrote:
As I've already said, I would love to see people who want a critique, analyzing their own images and indicating what they would like comment on.
To me the most valuable critique is that which focusses upon something you haven't yourself thought of.As I've already said, I would love to see people who want a critique, analyzing their own images and indicating what they would like comment on.
I'm not always so confident, which is why I tend to agree with Doug, that a bit of self-analysis would be helpful.
But isn't that a case of exercising some Quality Control before posting?
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Posted 26/05/2014 - 16:00
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Smeggypants wrote:
I'm not always so confident, which is why I tend to agree with Doug, that a bit of self-analysis would be helpful.
Fair comment ChrisA wrote:
Yes, that's why in your case I'm confident that when you post a picture, you've already put some thought into what you think of it Smeggypants wrote:
[quote:3496ace15f="dougf8"]
As I've already said, I would love to see people who want a critique, analyzing their own images and indicating what they would like comment on.
To me the most valuable critique is that which focusses upon something you haven't yourself thought of.[quote:3496ace15f="dougf8"]
As I've already said, I would love to see people who want a critique, analyzing their own images and indicating what they would like comment on.
I'm not always so confident, which is why I tend to agree with Doug, that a bit of self-analysis would be helpful.
But isn't that a case of exercising some Quality Control before posting?[/quote]You know that, and I know that...
(why do you think I so rarely post pictures )
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Posted 26/05/2014 - 16:09
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ChrisA wrote:
I'm not always so confident, which is why I tend to agree with Doug, that a bit of self-analysis would be helpful.
Fair comment Smeggypants wrote:
Yes, that's why in your case I'm confident that when you post a picture, you've already put some thought into what you think of it ChrisA wrote:
[quote:3496ace15f="Smeggypants"][quote:3496ace15f="dougf8"]
As I've already said, I would love to see people who want a critique, analyzing their own images and indicating what they would like comment on.
To me the most valuable critique is that which focusses upon something you haven't yourself thought of.[quote:3496ace15f="Smeggypants"][quote:3496ace15f="dougf8"]
As I've already said, I would love to see people who want a critique, analyzing their own images and indicating what they would like comment on.
I'm not always so confident, which is why I tend to agree with Doug, that a bit of self-analysis would be helpful.
But isn't that a case of exercising some Quality Control before posting?[/quote]You know that, and I know that...
(why do you think I so rarely post pictures )[/quote]but isn't that a good thing?
I occasionally see sets of pictures posted where a poster says something like "I went to event X at the weekend and here are some shots ... " and the images are just a bunch of snapshots where absolutely no thought has been made into taking them and likewise no quality control has been implemented before posting them.
Sort of thing which is fine on Facebook as a record of one's weekend to share with your mates, but surely on a photographer forum where I thought the idea was to create inspiring images and something photographically better than your average phone/compact snapper I would expect some thought to be put into the pastime. Otherwise why bother?
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Posted 26/05/2014 - 16:14
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I seem to remember someone in this thread (which I can't find it now)suggesting people explain how they went about taking a picture. It might make an interesting and informative thread, based on 'I framed it this way because..' statements rather than 'You need to crop the top off..' type critique.
Posted 26/05/2014 - 16:22
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Smeggypants wrote:
I occasionally see sets of pictures posted where a poster says something like "I went to event X at the weekend and here are some shots ... " and the images are just a bunch of snapshots where absolutely no thought has been made into taking them and likewise no quality control has been implemented before posting them.
Well, of course you don't know that...I occasionally see sets of pictures posted where a poster says something like "I went to event X at the weekend and here are some shots ... " and the images are just a bunch of snapshots where absolutely no thought has been made into taking them and likewise no quality control has been implemented before posting them.
Which reminds me, what do you do to get the people in your series of event shots to interact with you the way they do?
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yes i'd agree with Gravelrash
Further in a thread once I asked a question of someone, in relation to their post, and was totally ignored. Whereas the person concerned seems to be well received on here..
Maybe it's just an inevitability in life ?
It's similar with posting images. Sometimes I have posted images, had over two hundred views and either 1 or 2 comments , whereas others get several pages of comments. This is hardly conducive to people feeling encouraged to be active on here and lack of replies in itself is the very lack of activity being discussed.
Whether I reply or not can be down to a number of factors. Whether I've got something constructive to say, whether I've got the energy or not and whether or not I'm in the mood. I'm sure others work on the same variables.
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