What has happened?

judderman62
Posted 11/06/2014 - 23:11 Link
Blythman wrote:
judderman62 wrote:
Inevitable with how it's been here and how feelings run... you may as well ask grass not to grow.
Why should it be inevitable that we follow the tiresome lead, talking about another forum.Do the tiresome chat over there
Let me clarify what I emant. I meant it's eneveitable that those becoming active there are going to talk about dissatisfaction here .. it's human nature.

As has been said several times by several of us - if you find this thread "Tiresome" you can choose not to read it.
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Blythman
Posted 11/06/2014 - 23:46 Link
judderman62 wrote:

As has been said several times by several of us - if you find this thread "Tiresome" you can choose not to read it.
The thread wasn't tiresome it was a good one. Hoping it reverts. Don't need to be told several times by several people (getting the tiresome bit now?) what I can/cannot choose to do

Anyway there's been some good photos posted since David started this thread, and there's been more honesty in the critique.

So good on David I say
Alan


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davidstorm
Posted 11/06/2014 - 23:56 Link
Thanks for that Alan, my aim with the thread was to boost interest and discussion, to encourage participation and critique. I wasn't intending to start a row about moderation and in fact I don't think this thread has done that, but it has got caught up in a firestorm that was created in other threads.

I think most of us are old enough / sensible enough to know our own minds and to make our own judgments about what we can / can't do and what we should / should not get involved in. Personally speaking, I've avoided getting embroiled in the controversy about moderation and non-photography discussions, I'm primarily interested in this Forum for the photographic element and the excellent advice that is given and received.

As stated before though, I'm glad I started the thread because I think it has sparked some life back into the Forum which had been sadly lacking for some time.

Regards
David
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Epithet Man
Posted 12/06/2014 - 13:09 Link
judderman62 wrote:
Blythman wrote:
judderman62 wrote:
Inevitable with how it's been here and how feelings run... you may as well ask grass not to grow.
Why should it be inevitable that we follow the tiresome lead, talking about another forum.Do the tiresome chat over there
Let me clarify what I emant. I meant it's eneveitable that those becoming active there are going to talk about dissatisfaction here .. it's human nature.

As has been said several times by several of us - if you find this thread "Tiresome" you can choose not to read it.
Perhaps someone should start "Another tiresome thread" which we could use for general moaning about the forum?

EM
MrB
Posted 12/06/2014 - 19:01 Link
davidstorm wrote:

...I think most of us are old enough / sensible enough to know our own minds and to make our own judgments about what we can / can't do and what we should / should not get involved in. Personally speaking, I've avoided getting embroiled in the controversy about moderation and non-photography discussions, I'm primarily interested in this Forum for the photographic element and the excellent advice that is given and received...
Regards
David
A big +1 to all that. Thank you David.

Cheers.
Philip
JAK
Posted 13/06/2014 - 13:36 Link
There are sometimes snide comments made in threads that lead to retaliation and give rise to bad feeling. It puts people of posting and sometimes threads being pulled/locked - maybe that is the intention. Surely such comments, if felt necessary, could be made in a manner that isn't designed to deliberately antagonise/flame the person who made it. There maybe something useful for the OP in the comment you disagree with even if you don't think it yourself so let the OP decide rather than believe the thread is your own.
Often seemingly extraneous comments follow on from someone misreading or not noticing an earlier point, so show some respect and word your reply in a manner that suggests you are trying to help rather than antagonise otherwise you may end up being the only ones left here posting, then you would wonder what has happened.
John K
Smeggypants
Posted 13/06/2014 - 20:23 Link
JAK wrote:
There are sometimes snide comments made in threads that lead to retaliation and give rise to bad feeling. It puts people of posting and sometimes threads being pulled/locked - maybe that is the intention. Surely such comments, if felt necessary, could be made in a manner that isn't designed to deliberately antagonise/flame the person who made it. There maybe something useful for the OP in the comment you disagree with even if you don't think it yourself so let the OP decide rather than believe the thread is your own.
Often seemingly extraneous comments follow on from someone misreading or not noticing an earlier point, so show some respect and word your reply in a manner that suggests you are trying to help rather than antagonise otherwise you may end up being the only ones left here posting, then you would wonder what has happened.
Does that include patronising posts that are lecturing the rest of the forum on how to post?


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JAK
Posted 13/06/2014 - 21:45 Link
Smeggypants wrote:
JAK wrote:
There are sometimes snide comments made in threads that lead to retaliation and give rise to bad feeling. It puts people of posting and sometimes threads being pulled/locked - maybe that is the intention. Surely such comments, if felt necessary, could be made in a manner that isn't designed to deliberately antagonise/flame the person who made it. There maybe something useful for the OP in the comment you disagree with even if you don't think it yourself so let the OP decide rather than believe the thread is your own.
Often seemingly extraneous comments follow on from someone misreading or not noticing an earlier point, so show some respect and word your reply in a manner that suggests you are trying to help rather than antagonise otherwise you may end up being the only ones left here posting, then you would wonder what has happened.
Does that include patronising posts that are lecturing the rest of the forum on how to post?


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If the cap fits, maybe, but wasn't directed at you!
John K
Edited by JAK: 13/06/2014 - 21:50
Smeggypants
Posted 13/06/2014 - 22:29 Link
JAK wrote:
Smeggypants wrote:
JAK wrote:
There are sometimes snide comments made in threads that lead to retaliation and give rise to bad feeling. It puts people of posting and sometimes threads being pulled/locked - maybe that is the intention. Surely such comments, if felt necessary, could be made in a manner that isn't designed to deliberately antagonise/flame the person who made it. There maybe something useful for the OP in the comment you disagree with even if you don't think it yourself so let the OP decide rather than believe the thread is your own.
Often seemingly extraneous comments follow on from someone misreading or not noticing an earlier point, so show some respect and word your reply in a manner that suggests you are trying to help rather than antagonise otherwise you may end up being the only ones left here posting, then you would wonder what has happened.
Does that include patronising posts that are lecturing the rest of the forum on how to post?


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If the cap fits, maybe, but wasn't directed at you!
I never thought it was, I was just pointing out he irony
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Blaze
Posted 17/06/2014 - 11:37 Link
davidstorm wrote:

I think most of us are old enough / sensible enough to know our own minds and to make our own judgments about what we can / can't do and what we should / should not get involved in. Personally speaking, I've avoided getting embroiled in the controversy about moderation and non-photography discussions, I'm primarily interested in this Forum for the photographic element and the excellent advice that is given and received.
I agree with you completely, David.
Unfortunately a lot of what is posted on this forum is far too technical for me as I have trouble understanding all the terminology (yes, I know, use a dictionary ...). So there's not much I feel I can contribute to and I sometimes feel guilty if I ask for help yet have nothing to give in return.

My interest in photography continues to increase, as do the frustrations of not always feeling I'm progressing! Whilst it's nice to come on here and see what's going on, I avoid discussions on how this forum is run. Anyone who is or has been a mod/admin will know that it can be a thankless task.

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