What has happened?
Posted 23/05/2014 - 16:01
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davidstorm wrote:
I expect you're right.ChrisA wrote:
* remove the opportunity to leave comments in the Gallery
I'm really not sure that is a suggestion that many of us would agree with.* remove the opportunity to leave comments in the Gallery
The fact is, however, that since the gallery is for people to post pictures they are pleased with, you can be sure that whatever feedback is left will be artificially skewed towards praise, since no one likes to rain on someone else's parade (not even me!!)
I suppose people like to feel good, so if getting a bit of mild praise (and no feedback at all from the people that think the picture is no good) floats people's boat, so be it.
Rest assured nothing will change, though
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Posted 23/05/2014 - 16:49
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Like most people on here I'm quite pleased when I get good feedback on an image and very pleased when it's from someone whose work I admire. I also try to adjust images where someone has suggested, eg lift the levels a little or crop some off etc. I do put images in "Your Photos" and have had some good advice from various members. So long may the forum run.
Posted 23/05/2014 - 21:53
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I've only ever posted images in the Gallery and I always look there to see the latest additions. It's nice to know if someone likes something enough to comment.
Posted 24/05/2014 - 04:22
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Its funny to read this thread as a very new member, I have spent the last several years as an active member of various Wargames forums and a dissusion very much like this shows up more times than you wold think.
I think any forum for anything is constantly evolving as fresh blood comes in and others leave.
A forum in the end gives you as much as you put into it. I for one am hoping to get to know a few guys/girls and pick up a few tips. If I can spread a little cheer as I do this all the better
My rule for life applies to forums, treat everyone as you wish to be treated, if they do not return the favour then turn the other cheek life is too short.
Peace James
I think any forum for anything is constantly evolving as fresh blood comes in and others leave.
A forum in the end gives you as much as you put into it. I for one am hoping to get to know a few guys/girls and pick up a few tips. If I can spread a little cheer as I do this all the better
My rule for life applies to forums, treat everyone as you wish to be treated, if they do not return the favour then turn the other cheek life is too short.
Peace James
Posted 24/05/2014 - 10:52
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I'm not taking any credit for making this thread, but it does seem to me that since it was posted the forum has been a lot more vibrant? Whether this has sparked some interest, or whether it's just a coincidence I'm not sure, but I've enjoyed the site a lot more over the past week or so.
Regards
David
Regards
David
Posted 24/05/2014 - 11:14
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davidstorm wrote:
I'm not taking any credit for making this thread,
Well you should I'm not taking any credit for making this thread,
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but it does seem to me that since it was posted the forum has been a lot more vibrant? Whether this has sparked some interest, or whether it's just a coincidence I'm not sure, but I've enjoyed the site a lot more over the past week or so.
Yes. The discussion in places has been a lot less vacuous.but it does seem to me that since it was posted the forum has been a lot more vibrant? Whether this has sparked some interest, or whether it's just a coincidence I'm not sure, but I've enjoyed the site a lot more over the past week or so.
In general, things are a lot more interesting when people aren't just agreeing all the time. I'm still figuring out what to say about the Doc's dark pics, since mostly I don't like them very much, despite the accolades from everyone else. When I've figured out why, I'll write something. It may just be because at 800px, they're just too small.
That limitation is probably the single thing that gets my goat on this forum more than anything else - it's either that the powers that be are too stupid to realise that no-one uses a 1024x768 monitor any more, or they like to keep the pics small to ensure that there's plenty of room for the adverts.
Either way, it really annoys the bejezus out of me.
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Posted 24/05/2014 - 12:21
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davidstorm wrote:
..... on the Forum and the site in general?
Is it my imagination or have things gone downhill a bit lately? Very little quality in the Gallery, very little interaction and controversy on Forum threads. I find it harder and harder to get enthused about the site, is it just me?
Opinions please!
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David
I think people are generally quietly leaving the Pentax fold, or at least some of the characters have. On the Interweb in general it is all mirrorless this and mirrorless that with Fujifilm getting most of the attention. Great lenses are being developed by Sigma, Zeiss, Voigtlander and they are not coming to K-mount. K-3 may well be the best APS-C camera on the market, but it has been forgotten. You can see that in the classifieds section, great lenses at great value hanging around for days and weeks, whereas this time 2 years ago, would have been snapped up in hours...... on the Forum and the site in general?
Is it my imagination or have things gone downhill a bit lately? Very little quality in the Gallery, very little interaction and controversy on Forum threads. I find it harder and harder to get enthused about the site, is it just me?
Opinions please!
Regards
David
As to the gallery, I think everyone is too polite , i'm sure I've put up 2 sets of images and they quietly disappeared after a day or two with a hundred views or more but no comments. My reading from that is that the subject matter was too boring, possibly, they didn't follow the correct photographic rules, possibly or that my technique was off, again more than possible. For one reason or another, they were crap but everyone who looked was either too polite to say so or just couldn't be bothered because I wasn't in the right clique
Posted 24/05/2014 - 12:27
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robbiec wrote:
...For one reason or another, they were crap but everyone who looked was either too polite to say so or just couldn't be bothered because I wasn't in the right clique
What is this rubbish about cliques?...For one reason or another, they were crap but everyone who looked was either too polite to say so or just couldn't be bothered because I wasn't in the right clique
How is a clique even possible in a public forum?
Post if you want, don't if you don't. How that can be anything about a clique?
"Too polite", "Can't be bothered" - quite likely. But the notion that it's got anything to do with a clique is just paranoia.
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Posted 24/05/2014 - 13:14
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I was using 'Clique' in this form DEFINITION
Paranoia does not come into it, it was / is an observation. Funny how you jumped on that though, very tetchy response methinks
Paranoia does not come into it, it was / is an observation. Funny how you jumped on that though, very tetchy response methinks
Posted 24/05/2014 - 13:20
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robbiec wrote:
I was using 'Clique' in this form DEFINITION
Paranoia does not come into it, it was / is an observation. Funny how you jumped on that though, very tetchy response methinks
Cliques are more usually associated with some sort of exclusivity.I was using 'Clique' in this form DEFINITION
Paranoia does not come into it, it was / is an observation. Funny how you jumped on that though, very tetchy response methinks
For instance, this.
If you weren't implying exclusivity, then fair enough. Call the frequent posters a clique, if you want, but I think it will be misleading.
Usually when people start accusing people of being cliquey, there is at least the implication that there is some kind of exclusion going on.
Which clearly isn't the case here - as I say, we can all post if we want, not if we don't.
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Posted 24/05/2014 - 13:37
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I used the word "clique" also Robbie but thankfully Chris appears to have missed it
I think it would appear from my perspective that some people are more likely to respond to my posts than say other forumites. Those other forumites may respond more frequently to others therefore giving the impression of a clique, for want of a better word.
We have massive variation of talent and knowledge because anyone can buy a Pentax and be considered a user. It is human nature to find a level in the forum, a hierarchy if you will, that for all intents could be described with said word.
My first observation is probably the truest. I receive responses to queries from about a dozen players. Another 70 or so will respond to others but not me, and then there are those that don't participate at all.
If Robbie feels the same way it would give the impression of cliques. BTW Chris you're in mine, Robbie's in mine cos I have jumped to his defence but we are not all three in the same cos you poopoo'd Robbie's position haha
Think I'll write a book on forum politics and interactions
I think it would appear from my perspective that some people are more likely to respond to my posts than say other forumites. Those other forumites may respond more frequently to others therefore giving the impression of a clique, for want of a better word.
We have massive variation of talent and knowledge because anyone can buy a Pentax and be considered a user. It is human nature to find a level in the forum, a hierarchy if you will, that for all intents could be described with said word.
My first observation is probably the truest. I receive responses to queries from about a dozen players. Another 70 or so will respond to others but not me, and then there are those that don't participate at all.
If Robbie feels the same way it would give the impression of cliques. BTW Chris you're in mine, Robbie's in mine cos I have jumped to his defence but we are not all three in the same cos you poopoo'd Robbie's position haha
Think I'll write a book on forum politics and interactions
Steve
Sometimes I'm serious and sometimes not, but I consider sarcasm an artform. Which is it today?
Sometimes I'm serious and sometimes not, but I consider sarcasm an artform. Which is it today?
Posted 24/05/2014 - 14:22
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Gravelrash wrote:
BTW Chris you're in mine, Robbie's in mine cos I have jumped to his defence but we are not all three in the same cos you poopoo'd Robbie's position haha
BTW Chris you're in mine, Robbie's in mine cos I have jumped to his defence but we are not all three in the same cos you poopoo'd Robbie's position haha
I still think cliques are more about exclusion. I reply to posts that catch my interest in some way, and not to ones that don't. Certainly some people's posts catch my interest more than others', and I tend to notice those more.
I expect the same is true of others, so perhaps all we're saying is that different people are interested in different things. I don't think that's anything to do with cliques, which tends to have negative connotations.
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Posted 24/05/2014 - 14:27
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yes i'd agree with Gravelrash
Further in a thread once I asked a question of someone, in relation to their post, and was totally ignored. Whereas the person concerned seems to be well received on here..
Maybe it's just an inevitability in life ?
It's similar with posting images. Sometimes I have posted images, had over two hundred views and either 1 or 2 comments , whereas others get several pages of comments. This is hardly conducive to people feeling encouraged to be active on here and lack of replies in itself is the very lack of activity being discussed.
I'll plod on regardless and post here n there, comment and post pics
Further in a thread once I asked a question of someone, in relation to their post, and was totally ignored. Whereas the person concerned seems to be well received on here..
Maybe it's just an inevitability in life ?
It's similar with posting images. Sometimes I have posted images, had over two hundred views and either 1 or 2 comments , whereas others get several pages of comments. This is hardly conducive to people feeling encouraged to be active on here and lack of replies in itself is the very lack of activity being discussed.
I'll plod on regardless and post here n there, comment and post pics
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Posted 24/05/2014 - 14:32
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judderman62 wrote:
It's similar with posting images. Sometimes I have posted images, had over two hundred views and either 1 or 2 comments , whereas others get several pages of comments. This is hardly conducive to people feeling encouraged to be active on here and lack of replies in itself is the very lack of activity being discussed.
So what are you saying here?It's similar with posting images. Sometimes I have posted images, had over two hundred views and either 1 or 2 comments , whereas others get several pages of comments. This is hardly conducive to people feeling encouraged to be active on here and lack of replies in itself is the very lack of activity being discussed.
That if people aren't interested enough in posts or pictures, to comment on them, that's somehow their fault?
Eh?
People are way too touchy. If what you post attracts no comment, maybe post something more interesting
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Very interesting stuff is all this. I have been a member for a few months and have come to regard the forum as a valued resource for dealing with my Pentax trials, tribulations and frustrations and totally appreciate the depth of knowledge and experience contained in these pages.
As to posting photos I doubt that will happen for a good while yet. This is a hobby for me and am very aware of my own shortcomings but when I do get a shot in focus and vaguely interesting I will think about it.
Rob