Print or purchase?


K10D

Link Posted 13/09/2009 - 12:01
Just following on from George's comment on another post.

I have an Epson photo printer. It has not seen use in the past five years as I was convinced it is cheaper to have a shop do the prints.

Anyone have thoughts on this or actually done the math?

Regards
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organicimagery

Link Posted 13/09/2009 - 12:57
Its far cheaper for me to get them printed in costco, i print in a3 mostly, and also the fact of it is that if it messes up its there problem, not mine, so in some respects in printuing at home all it takes is for 1 of your prints to come out bad then thats the whole costing out of the windiow
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jaco

Link Posted 13/09/2009 - 13:12
Just for curiosity, how much is for an A3 print in Costco.
Thanls Claudio
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aminstar

Link Posted 13/09/2009 - 13:24
organicimagery wrote:
and also the fact of it is that if it messes up its there problem, not mine

What is there to mess up with printing at home?
Am I missing something here? But hey, you will have to excuse my ignorance because I am just a newbie so bear with my ignorant comments

Thanks Amin
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grahamwalton

Link Posted 13/09/2009 - 13:55
There are obviously many issues that can mess up home printing:-
Colour Management and calibration.
Paper Profiles
Paper Jam
Creased Paper
Print nozzle blockages
Print smudging
Paper feed problems
Colour casts
Over the course of years I think I have been through them all. Even now I sometime resort to test prints.

However I think the one great advantage that home printing gives is ultimate control and almost instant results. I supose its like the difference between trade processed print and home darkroom print, in the old days.

I must admit that current trade processed prints from some suppliers, do seem to be at bargain prices.
Friendly Regards
Graham

aminstar

Link Posted 13/09/2009 - 14:01
grahamwalton wrote:

However I think the one great advantage that home printing gives is ultimate control and almost instant results.

For me this outweighs all the other issues faced.
But I guess its up to each individual needs and requirements. For me personally being able to print at home at A3+ sizes and having full control of everything I do and the immediate results far outweighs the problems I would encounter.
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organicimagery

Link Posted 13/09/2009 - 14:39
aminstar wrote:
organicimagery wrote:
and also the fact of it is that if it messes up its there problem, not mine

What is there to mess up with printing at home?
Am I missing something here? But hey, you will have to excuse my ignorance because I am just a newbie so bear with my ignorant comments

Thanks Amin

And you meant what by this comment?
There are plenty of things that can go wrong with printing at home, anything from power failure down to simple paper jam, hence why if its printed in a lab or elsewhere then it wont be your problem, thuss your costings not going through the window.
I hope that has ecplaided it more clearly for your self
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Last Edited by organicimagery on 13/09/2009 - 14:42

aminstar

Link Posted 13/09/2009 - 14:45
organicimagery wrote:
aminstar wrote:
Quote:
and also the fact of it is that if it messes up its there problem, not mine

What is there to mess up with printing at home?
Am I missing something here? But hey, you will have to excuse my ignorance because I am just a newbie so bear with my ignorant comments

Thanks Amin

And you meant what by this comment?

Precisely what it means literally.

I have just started printing at home so am unaware of the various problems faced when printing at home.

But Graham has very kindly put it down explaining the aspects that I was unaware of.

Did you have any difficulty understanding my question and comment by the way? I thought I did put it quite clearly what I meant. But may be my english is not that good and you got confused. Perhaps I should start replacing "s" with apostrophes then it might leave my intentions clear with what I mean
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organicimagery

Link Posted 13/09/2009 - 14:50
aminstar wrote:
organicimagery wrote:
Quote:
organicimagery wrote:
and also the fact of it is that if it messes up its there problem, not mine

What is there to mess up with printing at home?
Am I missing something here? But hey, you will have to excuse my ignorance because I am just a newbie so bear with my ignorant comments

Thanks Amin

And you meant what by this comment?

Precisely what it means literally.

I have just started printing at home so am unaware of the various problems faced when printing at home.

But Graham has very kindly put it down explaining the aspects that I was unaware of.

Did you have any difficulty understanding my question and comment by the way? I thought I did put it quite clearly what I meant. But may be my english is not that good and you got confused. Perhaps I should start replacing "s" with apostrophes then it might leave my intentions clear with what I mean



"you will have to excuse my ignorance because I am just a newbie so bear with my ignorant comments"


clearly that was not what was intended, Now your trying to be a smart ass. No wonder so many people are leaving the forum. Due to pathetic comments like this. oh well.
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Last Edited by organicimagery on 13/09/2009 - 14:51

organicimagery

Link Posted 13/09/2009 - 14:59
jaco wrote:
Just for curiosity, how much is for an A3 print in Costco.
Thanls Claudio

For a 12x18 i pay 1:90 and this comes as a matte image, excellent quality and they use fujitsu paper, also you can use there software at hoem to upload images and then you get them at a discounted rate, have to upload about 300 images tomorrow , fun fun fun.

Hope this helps, if you need a sample image(from your collection) let me know and i will be more than happy to get it printed for you, just cover the cost of it thats all.

good thing is as well that you can print up to 36 inch in length so graet for panoramics
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aminstar

Link Posted 13/09/2009 - 14:59
K10D wrote:
Just following on from George's comment on another post.

I have an Epson photo printer. It has not seen use in the past five years as I was convinced it is cheaper to have a shop do the prints.

Anyone have thoughts on this or actually done the math?

Regards

Gary

I am not sure about other makes but Canon for example display the cost of printing on their website including high end paper. I print on Fine Art paper on A3+ sizes and the costs which include ink and paper is well under 2. Its somewhere in this long review link

So I am assuming A4 sizes must be much cheaper.

So it all depends upon your individual needs and whether you will be printing a lot or not.
I do send images for printing to the printers but only A2 sizes and bigger.

Hope that helps
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mikew

Link Posted 13/09/2009 - 14:59
I felt the same as Amin wanting the instant controlled results. Then I realised how much I had to spend to get a printer that would deliver that control, that I would probably be limited to about A3 size and the cost!

I'm happy with my A4 results and very pleased with the professionally prepared 12x16 prints I got for a bit over a pound.

Mike

PS post crossed with amin's. I reckon my A4 cost is about a pound without the cost of the printer. Canon must be clever to get an A3 print on their paper using their inks for 2, but of course they are very clever!
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Last Edited by mikew on 13/09/2009 - 15:01

aminstar

Link Posted 13/09/2009 - 15:07
jaco wrote:
Just for curiosity, how much is for an A3 print in Costco.
Thanls Claudio

Claudio, prices are here

They have some canvas offers also at discounted price
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aminstar

Link Posted 13/09/2009 - 15:15
mikew wrote:


PS post crossed with amin's. I reckon my A4 cost is about a pound without the cost of the printer. Canon must be clever to get an A3 print on their paper using their inks for 2, but of course they are very clever!

Mike, I am not sure about the other papers, but the ones they state that costs under 2 is calculated with their top of the range Art Paper. These ones if I have them printed at my printers cost me 12.50 plus delivery. And they were the cheapest I could find around after searching. Finally I was recommended by Paul Lucas and I got them to print my A2 and A1 sizes.

I am assuming that there must be quite a difference in paper quality between matte or satin photo paper and the high quality Ar paper. Perhaps someone more experienced could clarify this.

And organicimagery, before you jump with your guns again blazing and start calling me names read my comment and take it literally rather than trying to extract innuendos out of it. And next time you want to use vulgarity and deteriorate the quality of the thread take it on PM so I can reply to your childish attitudes accordingly. I refuse to do it here and ruin the forum environment. We have had a few of those around lately, and that has been enough
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Last Edited by aminstar on 13/09/2009 - 15:17

K10D

Link Posted 13/09/2009 - 16:04
aminstar wrote:
K10D wrote:
Just following on from George's comment on another post.

I have an Epson photo printer. It has not seen use in the past five years as I was convinced it is cheaper to have a shop do the prints.

Anyone have thoughts on this or actually done the math?

Regards

Gary

I am not sure about other makes but Canon for example display the cost of printing on their website including high end paper. I print on Fine Art paper on A3+ sizes and the costs which include ink and paper is well under 2. Its somewhere in this long review link

So I am assuming A4 sizes must be much cheaper.

So it all depends upon your individual needs and whether you will be printing a lot or not.
I do send images for printing to the printers but only A2 sizes and bigger.

Hope that helps

I have to assume that it can be as cheap to print at home. Next time back, I should get out the printer and plug in. I currently pick a local store or service and then get them to print to my liking. Once they are consisitent, I stick with them.

Presently using a Fuji Lab here in one of the Malls in Doha. Getting the prints home (flat) is always a challenge. They are actually photographs, not ink. I'll make a note of the machine next time I'm in there and see if the wife can get one in an Xmas stocking?
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Last Edited by K10D on 13/09/2009 - 16:05
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