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zealousdp
Not "understand to you", I mean mean understood my you.

Had to correct before a jibe on that came back.

Comment by zealousdp posted on Sharpest, cheapest and fastest long zoom? at 24/03/2010 - 10:47

zealousdp
robbie_d wrote:
zealousdp wrote:
robbie_d wrote:
[quote:3496ace15f="zealousdp"]Thanks everyone so far for your contributions. Its very interesting to see how people think.

I guess if a compramise has to be made, then rule out "VERY" fast as I'm sure all cheap lenses will be old, and within that focal range they were't very fast anyway (maybe except super expensive ones in the first place I don't know).

In regards to "it does not exist" and words to that effect, sorry to say, they're not really in keeping with the thread unless some kind of solution (or compromise/combo) is offered along with it. No offence intented, so please, no need to get all defensive.

Thanks again everone. Looking forward to reading more.

David
I don't think anyone just said "It doesn't exist" without mentioning that a compromise might be in order, or offering a lens which goes some way to meeting most of the requirements.

Even so, I think to ask people to recommend a lens which is:

"very sharp, very cheap (under £40) and very fast wide open? It has to be all three to qualify"

Then complain they are not "in keeping with the thread" when they come back with the correct answer (there isn't one), is quite frankly, a little bizarre.

I mean if I went onto a car forum and asked people to recommend a car with a V12 engine, that did 60mpg, could seat a family of twelve, and cost £5k. What answers should I honestly expect?
Well, the bizzare thing is people who don't understand how to read a question. The question was "WHAT" lens, not "Does a lens exist" or "Is there a lens that has theses qualities".

Frankly, the point of my quality control post was to filter out all those who don't want to offer a solution. Pointing out a problem is not helping anyone. Its very OBVIOUS to most readers that I trying to find the Holy Grail of El cheapo perfect lenses. Coming along and saying "Give up" is not my idea of a contribution.

NOW, everyone start getting defensive if you like!!!
I understand perfectly how to read a question, you have asked for a lens which is very fast, very sharp and £40 or under. There isn't one. Or would you rather people just made one up?

Oh wait, I sell a 10mm-600mm f1.0 for £39.99, unfortunately I've got none in stock. If you'd like to send me a non-refundable deposit of £20, I'll put you on the list for when I get one in.[/quote]Thanks for the sarcasm, and I appreciate how you don't want to lose a point making jibe. Problem is, however, you have lost. So give it up.

You're not supposed to make one up, obviously, but neither is there the Lens Patrol standing behind you forcing you to write something because the world just wouldn't be the same without your "reality check".

Best to leave quoting me alone. I know what I've said, unfortunately i can't seem to make myself understand to you.

Have a great day.

Comment by zealousdp posted on Sharpest, cheapest and fastest long zoom? at 24/03/2010 - 10:46

zealousdp
robbie_d wrote:
zealousdp wrote:
Thanks Thoughton. Having a look now.
Surely it doesn't meet all your qualification criteria and should therefore be excluded?
Yes, but difference is he's already mentioned the Tammy!!

Also, being proactive and suggesting a prime is better than mentioning nothing.

Lastly, read John's comment early on who, mentioned a lens but said it was out of budget - which is just how the post should run. Not with people just saying it can't be done/had.

Comment by zealousdp posted on Sharpest, cheapest and fastest long zoom? at 24/03/2010 - 10:40

zealousdp
Thanks womble. Great shot. Lovely sharpness. I had considered primes, but wanted to go with a zoom first so I can see where my "natural" framing focal lenth lies. Then I can go prime and love it more, not feel limited/carry around 3 or 4.

This one looks like a great start though.

Thanks again.

Comment by zealousdp posted on Sharpest, cheapest and fastest long zoom? at 24/03/2010 - 10:30

zealousdp
Thanks Thoughton. Having a look now.

Comment by zealousdp posted on Sharpest, cheapest and fastest long zoom? at 24/03/2010 - 10:28

zealousdp
robbie_d wrote:
zealousdp wrote:
Thanks everyone so far for your contributions. Its very interesting to see how people think.

I guess if a compramise has to be made, then rule out "VERY" fast as I'm sure all cheap lenses will be old, and within that focal range they were't very fast anyway (maybe except super expensive ones in the first place I don't know).

In regards to "it does not exist" and words to that effect, sorry to say, they're not really in keeping with the thread unless some kind of solution (or compromise/combo) is offered along with it. No offence intented, so please, no need to get all defensive.

Thanks again everone. Looking forward to reading more.

David
I don't think anyone just said "It doesn't exist" without mentioning that a compromise might be in order, or offering a lens which goes some way to meeting most of the requirements.

Even so, I think to ask people to recommend a lens which is:

"very sharp, very cheap (under £40) and very fast wide open? It has to be all three to qualify"

Then complain they are not "in keeping with the thread" when they come back with the correct answer (there isn't one), is quite frankly, a little bizarre.

I mean if I went onto a car forum and asked people to recommend a car with a V12 engine, that did 60mpg, could seat a family of twelve, and cost £5k. What answers should I honestly expect?
Well, the bizzare thing is people who don't understand how to read a question. The question was "WHAT" lens, not "Does a lens exist" or "Is there a lens that has theses qualities".

Frankly, the point of my quality control post was to filter out all those who don't want to offer a solution. Pointing out a problem is not helping anyone. Its very OBVIOUS to most readers that I trying to find the Holy Grail of El cheapo perfect lenses. Coming along and saying "Give up" is not my idea of a contribution.

NOW, everyone start getting defensive if you like!!!

Comment by zealousdp posted on Sharpest, cheapest and fastest long zoom? at 24/03/2010 - 10:26

zealousdp
wadna wrote:
"In regards to "it does not exist" and words to that effect, sorry to say, they're not really in keeping with the thread unless some kind of solution........"
The solution was staring you in the face, you just chose not to hear it - a compromise on your part is necessary.

Regards, Ian.
Well, although I thought domeone might quote me, the less said about this contribution the better, less I land myself in trouble.

Comment by zealousdp posted on Sharpest, cheapest and fastest long zoom? at 24/03/2010 - 10:20

zealousdp
Great shot. That is lovely are sharp. Will have a look into this lens some more. Thanks for the info.

Comment by zealousdp posted on SMC "K" 200mm f/4 at 24/03/2010 - 10:15

zealousdp
Oh, lastly, feel free to post a pic and 50% crop of a real world example of the lens in action along with EXIF.

Thanks

Comment by zealousdp posted on Sharpest, cheapest and fastest long zoom? at 24/03/2010 - 09:46

zealousdp
Thanks everyone so far for your contributions. Its very interesting to see how people think.

I guess if a compramise has to be made, then rule out "VERY" fast as I'm sure all cheap lenses will be old, and within that focal range they were't very fast anyway (maybe except super expensive ones in the first place I don't know).

In regards to "it does not exist" and words to that effect, sorry to say, they're not really in keeping with the thread unless some kind of solution (or compromise/combo) is offered along with it. No offence intented, so please, no need to get all defensive.

Thanks again everone. Looking forward to reading more.

David

Comment by zealousdp posted on Sharpest, cheapest and fastest long zoom? at 24/03/2010 - 09:44

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