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Once you could rely on good old UK to simply change $ to £.
Now they add on 100quid as well
What a rip off
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Well said. £999? That must be a joke, surely? Sorry to mention those other brands again but the D80 is available for £799 and the 400D for only £619. The DSLR that can be most obviously compared to the 10D, the Sony Alpha, goes for £599! Is weather 'resistance' and the possibility of a battery grip really worth another £400? Or am I missing something here? Maybe the K10d offers something genuinely revolutionary that we haven't been told about yet. Something that truly marks it out from the pack. Something that justifies a price tag of £400 more than the competition?

In the last few weeks, whenever those claiming to be in the know appeared on sites and forums claiming to have been told by a little birdy about the new Pentax, one of the buzzwords was "competitively priced". Obviously "competitively priced" didn't mean it would be priced to compete with other DSLRs of a similar specification. No, instead they're competing with Canon, Nikon and Sony on camera spec, while presumably competing with Leica on price. Interesting approach...

That, or of course they could be waiting to see how many people are willing to buy the K100d at over £500 before they're forced to acknowledge it's way too much to ask for over 5-year-old technology and reduce the price of both the K100d and the K10d to something more reasonable. Again, not a thought that fills me with confidence in Pentax.

Sorry about the moaning and ranting, but this camera is horrendously overpriced, and it needs to be said loud and clear before Pentax find themselves without any customers except a few with lots of money and little interest in whethey they're getting value for it. I'm happy with 6 megapixels for now, but by the time I feel the need to upgrade, I somehow doubt I'll be willing to pay nearly double the odds just for the priviledge of sticking with the K-mount. I also doubt I'll be the only one thinking that way.

Comment by ZaphodB posted on K10D is Official on Pentax Canada at 17/09/2006 - 01:25

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The K10D is not aimed at the D80/400D market, it will be pitching against the D200/30D/5D.
Then it's pitching too high IMHO. We know what the camera is now. And to me it looks far more comparable to the Sony Alpha than something like the the 5D. On its release the Alpha with lens immediately started selling for £600, a current price for pre-ordering a 10d is £999. £400 difference seems a lot to me for the actual benefits I can see the 10d offering.

Comment by ZaphodB posted on K10D news at 17/09/2006 - 15:45

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I liked the speculative price tag of $900 - $1200. That'll be £900 - £1200 to us brits, or maybe just €900 - €1200, we live in hope.
A price tag of around £600 would be very nice indeed, but since the K100D is currently selling for that price (at £200 more than the K110!) I think it's very unlikely indeed. As you said, Pentax will probably just follow the usual method of pricing photographic equipment in the UK - simply replacing the $ with a £. But if so it will hardly be 'competitively priced' as some have said, given that the current price for an Alpha kit is £600, the 400D only slightly more, and the D80 at £800. Whatever it's merits, I can't see the K10D (or whatever it's called) being bought by anyone but loyal Pentaxians unless it's priced below the Nikon and preferably the Canon too. Having said that, if it is I will of course buy one without thinking twice, I just think it's unlikely.

Comment by ZaphodB posted on K10D news at 11/09/2006 - 20:53

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I'd like to think I'll be able to get my hands on one in a week or two, but one or two months does seem more likely. I'd also like to know something about the camera - anything, in fact, beyond the fact that it's a 10-megapixel DSLR. I don't actually work in marketing so maybe I'm being naive here, but I can't really see how "You'll know all about it when it's released... and we won't even tell you when that is" is a good way of persuading consumers to wait for the Pentax instead of going for the D80, 400D or the Sony Alpha - all of which have been heavily advertised, and whose prospective buyers were informed of their specifications. Personally I have no intention of buying into a Canon or Nikon system, but I was sorely tempted to go for the KM/Sony since I already own Minolta AF lenses and could use my M42 lenses with an adapter. My mind was changed by its relatively poor performance at 800 and 1600 ISO, and the lack of 3200 ISO. But how do I know the 10mp Pentax will have 3200 ISO? Sure the *ists and K100 have it, but then so did the Sony's KM predecessors. That is of course just one of the things Pentax isn't telling us.

Maybe I'm just being impatient. Maybe I should have more faith in Pentax. But too many times I've defended Pentax on forums against those people who for some reason best known to themselves feel its necessary to tell people to "Stick with Canon or Nikon!", as though taking photographs is impossible with a Pentax or Minolta. But I'm finding it increasingly harder to make an argument for buying a Pentax other than "If you've got K-mount lenses already...". By this point I've seen the Pentax name on too many virtually identical entry-level 6mp cameras, each one slightly improving on the last one while simultaneously taking away something I liked. I know we don't desperately need ISO 100, but by now surely enough of us have said we'd quite like it to justify adding it? And scene modes - why? I've stuck with Pentax despite the 5 or 6 very similar cameras apparently all aimed at the same new-to-SLR consumer, assuming that all that time they were also working on a 'grown-up' DSLR. Now I don't know if that's the case, and have great difficulty understanding why Pentax won't release any information that would reassure me.

Rant over.

Comment by ZaphodB posted on Shock News! at 10/09/2006 - 14:56

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Hi, just thought I'd say that of the Jessops stores I've visited in the last few days, most had the K110D (the K100D without shake-reduction) selling for £399 with lens, but not the K100D itself. A couple also had the DL2 still selling for £350. Obviously the fact that it's been replaced by a virtually identical camera hasn't stopped Jessops trying to sell off the DL2, so if you're desperate to save £49 you can still shop around for one.

Meanwhile Jessops' website does not actually list the K100D or the K110D, but I found both on the site (with the K100D selling for £200 more than the K110 at £599!), by using the search function. Here's the links...
http://www.jessops.com/Store/s35904/0/Digital-SLRs/Pentax/K110D-+-18-55mm-Lens---EXCLUSIVE-TO-JESSOPS/details.aspx
http://www.jessops.com/Products/ProductDetail.aspx?SkuId=35905

I like the K110D, especially at £400, but think I'd miss the shake reduction on the K100D. But there's no way I'm prepared to pay £200 extra for that (they must be joking if they expect anyone to pay that price) and now I've gone back to waiting for that mythical beast with the 10 megapixels...

Comment by ZaphodB posted on Shock News! at 08/09/2006 - 19:12

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I'm pretty certain there is absolutely no socket or thread for a cable release anywhere on the camera - the P30T (and presumably P30N) does have the socket as you say, and many many people on websites have referred to their P30T as simply a "P30", leading to intense confusion when I Google "Pentax P30" with "Cable release" and read about how someone used a P30 with a cable release when there's clearly nowhere to plug a cable release and they're never mentioned in the manual

As for the Heath Robinson approach, I've found these...
http://porters.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=10-0754&Category_Code=C1A
(is it OK to hyperlink here?). This looks pretty useful, but since it costs $45.99 (not including postage to the UK, which I'm not sure is even available) I'll probably just buy a used P30T or P30N instead.

Comment by ZaphodB posted on Pentax P30 (no cable release) - remotely releasing shutter? at 31/07/2005 - 14:43

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Hi all, I'm new to this forum so sorry if I'm posting in the wrong area.
I have a Pentax P30 which I count as my favourite camera - or at least I used to, until I realised there is no thread for a cable release. Needless to say this causes problems, and in particular turns my newly bought 500mm lens into a useless piece of metal and glass. With such a lens it's virtually impossible to take a decent photo with my hands touching the camera - the only solution I can see is to use the self-timer, but needless to say this only works when the subject is completely stationary, and even then is far from ideal.

Essentially what I'm looking for is any advice or suggestions on how to "improvise" a remote release for this camera; any generic remote release that doesn't require a thread, or in fact any ideas at all on how to take photos without having to press the shutter button with my finger I'd be very grateful for any help; thanks in advance.

Comment by ZaphodB posted on Pentax P30 (no cable release) - remotely releasing shutter? at 31/07/2005 - 03:14

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