....So, Which is it then...?

..........Pentax should not make a 'FF' model because it would be more expensive than the APS models....

Or;

..........Pentax should not make a 'FF' model because it wont supply bigger image size than APS.....

Or;

..........Pentax should not make a 'FF' model because all the APS pentax users will feel their gear to be inferior.....


Or;

..........Pentax should not make a 'FF' model because most current users never make prints so can't work out why anyone else might want or need to.

Actually theres more thn a few people in this thread with too much "front".....

Sadly this topic if largely full of nonsense and it's not from the people who see why its essential that pentax regain their innovative streak.....

Pwynnej.....PLEASE shoot the same subject with k20 and then D3...use a tripod and keep to 1/125 sec....RAW files. Make BIG prints (some of us only make large prints) ...now blow up a corner of each and post them here

....PLEASE

(....Not that it's not been done already if you go and look....)

.....I'm sure it will be sharp enough to cut your fingers on.......

Interesting and important topic......

I think pentax MUST make a 'FF' if they are to be taken seriously by photographers rather than camera users/consumers. The 'Toys-R-Us' stance that pentax has recently taken with kx & kr may be good for it's bean counters but it's a wrong turning as far as I'm concerned, and can only be seen as an attempt to 'dumb down' photography. Offering a mediocre standard lens after TEN YEARS and hoping for success becasue it's available in 20 colours does NOT hack it!

Pentax has shown brilliant inovation in the past and now is the time for a 'FF' system without mirror, but with a selection of viewfinders, including the best EVF available. With adaptors this system could be uysed with any lens system from 35mm and since pentax used to make a complete range of such lenses they still have the ability and maybe the infrastructure. A few of the current lenses can cover 'FF' too.

It's interesting to see the pendulum swing back once more to the argument about quality and what's 'good enough'......for older photographers this will srtike a chord as we can all remember the argument between 35mm users and medium format operators and those who tried to claim that the image quality was the same (in their dreams!) For medium format people like myself there is no real possibility of going digital and getting the same quality without either,.... remortgage to buy a digital back,..remortgage to buy a drum scanner,....or a life of stiching together files from a DSLR. ONLY a good 'FF' system will supply the quality we were used to at a manageable price.

Please don't think the 645D does this. That's a pathetic attempt by pentax to force it's way back into the MF world and is yesterday's technology with a small sensor added. IF they had put that sensor into a camera not much larger than k7 (which would have been possible for an enterprising and innovative camera maker) they would have had a massive winner which would have been unique. As it is there is the same annoying compromise of a 1.6X focal length factor as with APS sensors/35mm ...and the 645D is intended for pro users!! A fantastic opportunity lost!

So, if you are looking Mr Pentax, get your pencil out, find an old envelope, and get sketching......Please!

Mike Johnston who runs the well known website 'The Online Photographer' wants to know how you are gettig on with the pentax kx.....

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/blog_index.html

.....Might have to scroll down if he puts more stuff on.

Be very careful with SRS for secondhand as they are VERY expensive,....note Sony a200 MORE secondhand than it was new just a few months ago etc etc........

I just had a look at the site and see that there is a 'duotone' comp,...except that most people have entered monotones!......

.........??

In view of this I have replaced my pic with one never used before.

I have to admit that I do enjoy the writing of Kenny! It usually makes me smile and is an excellent read provided you take it in the spirit he writes it in. As he admits, he always tries to make it contentious, but with as much truth as possible.........

.....Like me, Kenny hates bullshit and the many people in photography who are 'up themselves' or too precious.

Here is his latest which seems to me to have much more than a grain of truth and to be particularly significant to this site,...enjoy, 'The Death Of Photography'....

http://kenrockwell.com/tech/death-of-photography.htm