All Forum Comments
John claims...the simple thing if someone wants to disagree is to discuss it
That was not my experience, John, and you know it.
When I protested and explained my PP, your response was, and I quote.
"There is nothing to add to what I said before, just bear it in mind and let's move on"
So much for a discussion.
It is not my intention to add to your discomfort, John. I just want other members to know how it is when you fall foul of the Mods. Hiding it all behind a cloak of confidentiality also hides the truth of the matter.
I simply ask for more transparency. It would then not allow you to make claims that are not factual.
That was not my experience, John, and you know it.
When I protested and explained my PP, your response was, and I quote.
"There is nothing to add to what I said before, just bear it in mind and let's move on"
So much for a discussion.
It is not my intention to add to your discomfort, John. I just want other members to know how it is when you fall foul of the Mods. Hiding it all behind a cloak of confidentiality also hides the truth of the matter.
I simply ask for more transparency. It would then not allow you to make claims that are not factual.
I simply made the point that banning or warnings via PP leads to mis-understandings and polorises members opinions when this action is revealed in open forum.
Had the Mods actions been transparent then there would be no need for guessing and speculation.
It is on this point that I support Tim.
I am not a victim. I am simply another member who has been on the other end of the Mods over zealour reaction without first being given a chance to defend myself, which is everyone's right. If I am to understand Tim correctly he also felt the mods action was similarly undertaken.
It is for that reason, and that reason alone that I am on this thread.
This thread is not about two members who have had a past dis-aggreement. Mature people move on and put such things behind them. Let that be the case.
Had the Mods actions been transparent then there would be no need for guessing and speculation.
It is on this point that I support Tim.
I am not a victim. I am simply another member who has been on the other end of the Mods over zealour reaction without first being given a chance to defend myself, which is everyone's right. If I am to understand Tim correctly he also felt the mods action was similarly undertaken.
It is for that reason, and that reason alone that I am on this thread.
This thread is not about two members who have had a past dis-aggreement. Mature people move on and put such things behind them. Let that be the case.
John. You have been both angel and devil to me. I would always support authority providing it is transparent
Banning and warning members via PP is not transparent. In my case only three people were aware of my warning and the reasons for this. There is no right of reply or the ability of fellow members to express concern to you regarding your decision. Claiming confidentiality just does not wear.
None of us, knowing you, are doubting your word that there are issues here that you cannot discuss. That does not diminish our concern and support for Tim.
Tim has, sensibly, highlighted his concern. Surely the almost unanmimous support for Tim must be of some concern to you.
Mediation is an obvious path. I am sure there is a member that you can trust to share the reasons for your decision and, hopefully reasure us.
Continuous justification will only eat at our regard for you. Please settle your differences.
Banning and warning members via PP is not transparent. In my case only three people were aware of my warning and the reasons for this. There is no right of reply or the ability of fellow members to express concern to you regarding your decision. Claiming confidentiality just does not wear.
None of us, knowing you, are doubting your word that there are issues here that you cannot discuss. That does not diminish our concern and support for Tim.
Tim has, sensibly, highlighted his concern. Surely the almost unanmimous support for Tim must be of some concern to you.
Mediation is an obvious path. I am sure there is a member that you can trust to share the reasons for your decision and, hopefully reasure us.
Continuous justification will only eat at our regard for you. Please settle your differences.
I also agree.
I am moving on simply because of John's over zealous response and warning resulting from another member's complaint, all without first contacting me for clarification.
Whilst I can appreciate warnings and bannings being done by PP, it esentually creates a sense of being unaccountable.
As has clearly been stated, Tim is considered by members to be a valuable and appreciated member.
John! You can hide behind your decision under the guise of confidentiality but this clearly is causing some consternation from members.
In the best interest of the Forum and members, please wipe the slate clean and restore Tim to the fold.
Now I suppose I shall be banned. So be it!!!
I am moving on simply because of John's over zealous response and warning resulting from another member's complaint, all without first contacting me for clarification.
Whilst I can appreciate warnings and bannings being done by PP, it esentually creates a sense of being unaccountable.
As has clearly been stated, Tim is considered by members to be a valuable and appreciated member.
John! You can hide behind your decision under the guise of confidentiality but this clearly is causing some consternation from members.
In the best interest of the Forum and members, please wipe the slate clean and restore Tim to the fold.
Now I suppose I shall be banned. So be it!!!
pm with E.Mail address.
Comment by thoramay posted on W.T.B. Pentax FA 100-300 4.5-5.6 power zoom at 04/09/2011 - 12:38
My Pentax bag, rescued from a charity shop is light blue.
Interestingly, the Pentax leather and metal logo seems to be attached via velcro.
I have no interest in this bag. I am willing to send it to a new home, but!! having sent the camera to a member and received not a single thanks or offer to refund postage, I will need to ask for a donation to that charity shop. Any takers.
Interestingly, the Pentax leather and metal logo seems to be attached via velcro.
I have no interest in this bag. I am willing to send it to a new home, but!! having sent the camera to a member and received not a single thanks or offer to refund postage, I will need to ask for a donation to that charity shop. Any takers.
Comment by thoramay posted on pentax camera bag at 08/08/2011 - 12:45
John. What price do these bags fetch?
Comment by thoramay posted on pentax camera bag at 08/08/2011 - 09:03
I still use a meter when using film, John, presumably so might others.
Sometimes the old stuff generates an interest.
Don't want to dump something that others might regard as useful.
Sometimes the old stuff generates an interest.
Don't want to dump something that others might regard as useful.
Comment by thoramay posted on yashica yem 35 super meter at 04/08/2011 - 14:22
You accused me of threatening you. The concept of threatening another member of this forum is too ludicrous to contemplate. What did I threaten you with? Being over four hundred miles away how could I carry out any conceived threat?
My PP never mentioned the word threat. I did warn you that there could be consequences if you go too close to the wire in your postings.
You chose to go crying into the mods apron for sympathy and, I suspect, retribution. Out of your own mouth on this forum you have confessed to being a reactionary. Sure you are. This time tou over- reacted
JR gave me a warning. I told him his warning had no substance and that I would disregard it.
End of matter as far as I was concerned. Holding grudges is for the playground not on an adult forum.
That is an explanation for that mysterious comment, John. You are not in a position to tell the story, but I have.
Let it rest Doug, and move on.