Waiting for mine to appear - it went in the post today [ Thanks Greytop ]

It really is a pity it has to be used from the front of the camera - but hey I think I can live with that

Being honest - I think it's a 50/50 split .

I've learned a HUGE amount from you all , I've gained in confidence and I was surprised last night when I found I WANTED to go manual

OH and I was using the tripod the whole time too

It was really fun in the carpark. Painting with light is fun

The folk who didn't come last night really missed a lot - but it also gave Jim time to help each one of us individually - and that made a big difference .

We were all very relaxed and have promised to e-mail Jim some of our stuff from the final night.

OK - I've finished this course officially - BUT I may go back to the Improvers Course again in September this year - when with the better light we would be doing more practical work outside the classroom . By then I'll have had some months taking more pics and shooting manually at times [ not all the time , but I'll do enough to get me relaxed about it ]

I look at last night's pics and compare them with the earlier ones from New York that are on my Website - and to my eyes the difference is really striking. I'm still not a photographer - but I think I'm heading that way

OH and get ready for more fun later this year - I've still to go RAW - but I'll wait for that

I really like the second one .

I think our eyes are possibly distracted by the strong shiny copper pipes and also the heavy silver lining. The red lining looks OK.

The steps are sharp , at least to my eyes .

Long exposure - I was at 30 secs and longer

It was fun . I have about 40 to go through .

What was also very interesting was that in the painting with light shots , despite the fact that our tutor was moving around , and often within the camera shot - we never got him

Correction there HG

We KNOW we are barking

CRIKEY!!

Can't we have an exception made on educational grounds ?

Grolsch - is that beer ?

I prefer Leffe

The only thing that can be added to that is

The lucky seller is rubbing his hands all the way to the bank

Aaaaaaaah - the inevitable forum joiners - they see a new group so sign up , even if not interested

Board I was on a while back had a good way of dealing with this - an Admin e-mailed them 6 months after signing up suggesting they should actually post something. If they didn't they were warned that their membership would expire in a further few months . No posts in a year - account was deleted .

Give us a chance - you never know what will happen next