I'm lucky - my floor was floored - if you see what I mean Considering my 3 grandchildren had been helping with the attic clearance I think we did exceedingly well to have no-one stung in May/June when we were working up there, not knowing what we would uncover [ literally ].

grrrrrrrrrrrrrh

Don't think 'red eye ' reduction would work

Mebbe cropped a tad too much ? You seem to have a bit of an ear - but it was your eye being dealt with .

Mr Spider ,

It is possible that my attic was the summer residence for several thousands of the wee stripey stingy things .

A few buzzing about on a nice summer evening in the garden is one thing - several thousand - in an enclosed space that is supposed to be for me to use - that's a totally different kettle of fish.

My nice kind exterminator man shook his head as he came down from my attic - he reckoned there could have been as many as 75000 there if we didn't get on top of the problem . From when I first saw the nests on Sunday 30 May they had grown from small tennis ball size to medium size footballs

Tim - I did say it had gone over several threads and the above is what I inferred from the various posts on the various threads You have to admit it was rather difficult to keep track of things .

Putting the number [ or even just saying several ] in the thread title is a very sensible suggestion - and it does work.

Watch it you

Emma

Sadly this 'discussion' spread to other threads last night and trying to keep track of what was being said , and by whom and,, more importantly, about what, really got rather complicated.

At one point we were not being asked to limit the number of pictures we posted , we were told to . We were told that threads which were started by several pictures were not wanted , oh and nor were what could be called 'holiday snaps ' , not that those words were actually used .

The fact that we all had differing styles , or were still not settled into a distinct style did not seem to matter .

These sort of comments , to my mind , do not allow for personal development , and then when we give comments/ criticism it was supposed to be on technical matters - but it has to be remembered that a goodly number here are still learning the skills of photography and are struggling with our own skills and because of that all we [ yes I do mean me ] can do is say if we like a shot , and why it works for us.

The style of comments awarded on Flikr came up - and I think we are all in agreement that the backslapping ' best I've ever seen ' 'I've awarded you this little Icon saying you are the greatest landscape photographer ' are indeed inappropriate . BUT a little encouragement , suggestions as to how to improve something , and perhaps a demonstration of what can be done in PP [ will I ever conquer my fear of PSE ] will help.

It has to be remembered that criticism HAS to be constructive . It should not be destructive.

Sorry I've gone on a bit here

changing the colour has greatly improved it and somehow it has brought out the mottling of the laquer on the pen cap - : Parker Duofold link.

I notice that the metal work on the Clarinet itself is now a little softer and , I think, more attractive.

I'm not commenting on the technical aspects - I don't know enough - I'm commenting on the image I see - and I like what I see .

Ye gods and little fishes !

Ask and ye shall receive

I know it is - but I HATE wasps

How they build them I don't know , and I admire them for their skills

BUT they are still nasty stripey stingy things and I've had enough stings in my life than-you-very-much