right this is a very grey area
you as a person cannot film or photograph children in a school
if there was some one filming in the school did you sign a disclamer to say that they could film your child if you did not then you can complaine to the school as they have broken the law
it is all so complicated with what can and cant be done

i think the 17/50 is not in the equation as i would then have a gap in my lens range so i would stiil have to get anotherto bridge that
price is not the issue
and if i rember correctly the 16/85 is only about 8 grams hevier than the 17/ 70 which as just died
and as for the speed it dont bother me as some people have slated me for useing high iso in bright sunlight but it worked well and the effect worked
and the k3ii dose work well in low light

Think I have the quick guide some where if intrestet

you have the book

my 17/70 is on its last legs i can have it repair or go new but what do i get
a nother pentax 17/70 or the sigma 17/70
pentax 18/135or the 16/85
any suggestions and why to help me make my mind up

Is that a strat and a les paul I spy or are they copys

Hi Carl she focus s in fine she just don't fire

to day was not a good day as a trip to corfe castle as sent my 17/70 in to meltdown
will focuse in but wont take a shot on the k3ii and befor you say any thing the 55/300 works fine
any suggestions befor i go and see chris next week if hes in lol

Dpreview as it all on there

my first dslr was the ds which in its day was a nice camera i upgraded to the k10 which i loved until it died (RIP)
so i bought a k5 now this is a totaly diferant camera in layout and settings
and to be honist we had a love hate relationship i could never get what i wanted out of the camera so i also bought a k20 which i thought would be good but dont know why i could not get on with so december lastyear i trotted of to a well known camera shop (on here any way)and played with a couple of cameras and ended up buying a k3ii
now you have had the istd for a number off years and i prosume you bought it new
so my advice would be forget what every one says and nip down your local pentax stockist (if they have a good selection )
play with the cameras and take your choice you will be suprised how much they have changed in tec on them and what can be done

regards stu