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Comment by PentaxRocks posted on Photographer's rights gets a higher profile at 01/12/2009 - 15:28
aminstar wrote:
I don't t hink Pentaxrocks meant to say that, but I will let him confirm this.
My understanding about the system though is that when you are stopped and if you don't have your DL and car documents such as MOT and Insurance they will give you a "producer" so that you can go to a police station within those days to produce the documents. But in order for them to let you go and give you a producer your details need to be checked. And for that you will have to supply your name, surname and full address, and they will check it up there and then. That way they know that you are genuinely the person who you say you are.
But if things look dodgy and they can't confirm your details (which there are various means of doing that) then they will take you to the police station and take things from there. They are very flexible and I know at least of one occasion that someone I knew who was stopped at very ungodly hours of the night and didn't have anything with him, and when he said he had it all at home they actually went with him to his place and wanted him to produce the documents. Funny enough he actually didn't have MOT and insurance nor a DL that allowed him to drive in the UK and ended up going to the police station anyway in the end lol. This was during the times that Insurance and MOTs were not computerised still. Nowadays its my understanding that these checks can easily be done whle you are there as these details are all computarised and in a database. They would be driving and could easily know that the car in front has no valid insurance
You have hit the nail on the head. The Vehicle recognition system will tell us if you have Tax, Insurance and MOT if the vehicle is owned by a suspended drive, thinking about it I cant remember the last time I issued a producer, as we don't really need them now everything is on the computer. We then have to check with DVLA if you have a licence, if you don't have it on you. They can tell us what you can drive or if you are suspended, we can then cross match that with PNC to check you are who you say you are. Then fill out 10 ton of paperwork.morelia wrote:
Quote Pentarocks
Just so you know, if you are driving you are meant to have your driving licence on you.
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Surely you are not saying that you are legally obliged to carry a driving licence whist driving, are you?
I have never done this and don't intend to.
John,Quote Pentarocks
Just so you know, if you are driving you are meant to have your driving licence on you.
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Surely you are not saying that you are legally obliged to carry a driving licence whist driving, are you?
I have never done this and don't intend to.
I don't t hink Pentaxrocks meant to say that, but I will let him confirm this.
My understanding about the system though is that when you are stopped and if you don't have your DL and car documents such as MOT and Insurance they will give you a "producer" so that you can go to a police station within those days to produce the documents. But in order for them to let you go and give you a producer your details need to be checked. And for that you will have to supply your name, surname and full address, and they will check it up there and then. That way they know that you are genuinely the person who you say you are.
But if things look dodgy and they can't confirm your details (which there are various means of doing that) then they will take you to the police station and take things from there. They are very flexible and I know at least of one occasion that someone I knew who was stopped at very ungodly hours of the night and didn't have anything with him, and when he said he had it all at home they actually went with him to his place and wanted him to produce the documents. Funny enough he actually didn't have MOT and insurance nor a DL that allowed him to drive in the UK and ended up going to the police station anyway in the end lol. This was during the times that Insurance and MOTs were not computerised still. Nowadays its my understanding that these checks can easily be done whle you are there as these details are all computarised and in a database. They would be driving and could easily know that the car in front has no valid insurance
Comment by PentaxRocks posted on Photographer's rights gets a higher profile at 01/12/2009 - 10:39
cardiff_gareth wrote:
If so are you the slightly larger traffic cop as I'm a driving instructor and when I was in Barry he very nearly drove into me at a T junction
Got a mate who is traffic based near Merthyr, we call him BumDoctor
I'll have to re-read the highway code as I can't remember seeing in there that it was an offensive not to carry your drivers licence on you
Yes I am a traffic cop, yes you may have seen me on TV, as I have been on the said TV programme. And yes I am a large copper. But I don't cover Barry. PentaxRocks wrote:
PentaxRocks - Are you a traffic policeman? If so have we seen you on channel 1 traffic cops programme as I see they do South Wales some weeks? Mostly around where I used to grow up - T'was a s**t hole mikew wrote:
I stand corrected. In the UK I'm pretty sure you don't need your driving licence unless they have changed the law. You just have to produce it at a local police station.
Sadly my ignorance is once again on show - but as always I am happy to be corrected
Mike
PS Having used Wiki I know see my information based on tourist guides is quite wrong and another of my prejudices bites the dust!
Just so you know, if you are driving you are meant to have your driving licence on you. And if asked to produce it, have it to hand. But most of the checks can be done via PNC, at the roadside to work out your real identity. Only 7 times in 18 years have I had to arrest someone to find out who they where. All 7 times they pretended to be someone to get off a motoring conviction(All 7 times they gave me false details, at the roadside.)I stand corrected. In the UK I'm pretty sure you don't need your driving licence unless they have changed the law. You just have to produce it at a local police station.
Sadly my ignorance is once again on show - but as always I am happy to be corrected
Mike
PS Having used Wiki I know see my information based on tourist guides is quite wrong and another of my prejudices bites the dust!
If so are you the slightly larger traffic cop as I'm a driving instructor and when I was in Barry he very nearly drove into me at a T junction
Got a mate who is traffic based near Merthyr, we call him BumDoctor
I'll have to re-read the highway code as I can't remember seeing in there that it was an offensive not to carry your drivers licence on you
You need to be able to prove who you are, (not your licence as such as we can check all those details)it just so we don't go giving some poor sod a ticket, for something they didn't commit. You wouldn't belive how often someone trys to give me false details. But they normally trip themselves up and tell the truth in the end.
Comment by PentaxRocks posted on Photographer's rights gets a higher profile at 01/12/2009 - 10:28
mikew wrote:
I stand corrected. In the UK I'm pretty sure you don't need your driving licence unless they have changed the law. You just have to produce it at a local police station.
Sadly my ignorance is once again on show - but as always I am happy to be corrected
Mike
PS Having used Wiki I know see my information based on tourist guides is quite wrong and another of my prejudices bites the dust!
Just so you know, if you are driving you are meant to have your driving licence on you. And if asked to produce it, have it to hand. But most of the checks can be done via PNC, at the roadside to work out your real identity. Only 7 times in 18 years have I had to arrest someone to find out who they where. All 7 times they pretended to be someone to get off a motoring conviction(All 7 times they gave me false details, at the roadside.)I stand corrected. In the UK I'm pretty sure you don't need your driving licence unless they have changed the law. You just have to produce it at a local police station.
Sadly my ignorance is once again on show - but as always I am happy to be corrected
Mike
PS Having used Wiki I know see my information based on tourist guides is quite wrong and another of my prejudices bites the dust!
Comment by PentaxRocks posted on Photographer's rights gets a higher profile at 01/12/2009 - 08:09
I'll check out the West wales stores for you today mike.
Comment by PentaxRocks posted on Pentax at ffordes at 29/11/2009 - 09:08
Thanks Dan. No need to be sorry these things happen.
Comment by PentaxRocks posted on PentaxUser newsletter at 26/11/2009 - 15:21
Has anyone else had 41 copys in there email inbox today!!!!!
Comment by PentaxRocks posted on PentaxUser newsletter at 26/11/2009 - 14:41
Put my name on the list, I'll be there.
Comment by PentaxRocks posted on Anyone fancy a meeting for South Wales in Swansea early 2010? at 26/11/2009 - 14:38
Just to let you all know lens arrived off John in super fast time and great condition. So I now have the 16-45mm and I'm off to have a play, pleased as punch and a big thanks to John.
Comment by PentaxRocks posted on w.t.b. pentax 16-45 and a tamron 90mm f2.8 macro at 24/11/2009 - 09:28
Thanks for that, I've got a 16-45 now thanks to John. Still looking for the tamron.
Comment by PentaxRocks posted on w.t.b. pentax 16-45 and a tamron 90mm f2.8 macro at 23/11/2009 - 09:28
I have no issue with carrying an ID card, it will make no real difference to what I do, as long as it is not used as a stealth way of gathering information on people and what they do. I belive it should have no impact on peoples civil liberties. The Netherlands have a system that seems to work very well, and does not really impose any issues on the people who live there.
But knowing our goverment in the UK they will find ways to use ID cards as a means to keep tabs on us.
(THIS IS MY OWN PERSONNEL VIEW POINT, AND NOT THE VIEWS HELD BY ANY OTHER POLICE OFFICER, OR THE SERVICE I REPRESENT.).