the bank note idea sounds good,but ironically i changed my last £10notes to euros last week,so my options are now £20,£50,(all new ones by look of them.any idea if these are as good as the dickens tenner,or do i need to get a dickens tenner from my girlfriends bank.(got the queen side of the twenty up at mo,but again wondering which part of note to pay most attention to (like the rigging example),cheers.nigelxk.

will try test again at recomended optimum settings ,so please feel free to give your ideas on what that will be,and i,ll give it a go .got loads of lenses that should knock spots of the helios.. Super tak,s ,carl ziess etc,but think this was worth a mention,coz this might be a lens many have not tried due to its rediculously low price.

now the smc 50mm f1.7

helios 44 if you save and zoom in on these theres so much detail.




helios 44-2


helios 44m

trying to work out how to post them ,cropped them down small.

i have over 150 lenses to work through ,to decide on say a dozen keepers.,with the way lens prices have been rising taken the gamble i wont loose any money,so having read this thread i thought i would test two of the lenses mentioned,the smc m 50mm f 1.7 and the helios 44,44-2,and 44m.all three helios,s much to my amazment where pin sharp on the litrature i was focusing on from approx three feet,the smc's however (i have three of them)were lacking in sharpness..i used mirror lockup and mini tripod,iso 100,liveview manual focusing,then i tried my 18-55 zoom set to 55mm ,auto focus, then manually and had a real shock that even manually there was no comparrison,the zoom was rubbish.what can i try to get these f 1.7's to match these three old russian lenses(at first thought wow i,m blessed with a gem,then tried other two to find they are consistantly sharp. trying to work out how to post some pic's now.also i realise there are other factors like colour,bokoh,etc ,etc.i am a complete novice ,but from these first tests i think i will be keeping a helios.

well i have had two weeks shooting with all three camera,s and must confess to liking them all,but not sure the samsung justifies having cost as much as the k100/and k200 combined.I am also getting confused b the two different firmwares.which one do i sell the k100 or the samsung,rediculous having three camera,s.

welcome to the site trev,glad you have 30 plus years experience,just got my hands on lots of lovely glass and three good camera,s ,now i realise how little i know,put a smc pentax 1:4/200 lens on my k100super and hey presto cant work out how to take a shot.got lots of takumar glass and not a adaptor in sight.even managed to get my hands on a carl ziess jenner 25/f4 which will look great on the gx-20 when i pick it up.want to take good shots of our new baby,and ironically my girlfriends beating me hands down with her blackberry.lol

having had my purchase of k-x fall through,have spotted a mint and very little used samsung gx-20,can anyone give thier thoughts on this camera which i am old is a k20 clone.cheers nigel.

greatdigitalart.com i think was the company ,i can believe they were unbelivable prices on thousands of popular items ,dread to think how much they raked in,i was lucky ,nothing was removed from my account.