[quote="ChrisA"]especially when you take into account the fact that the SR on the K10D is supposedly worth an extra stop over that on the K100D.

If you're using a tripod it's moot anyway, buy the K10D and enjoy the best value camera body on the market. It simply can't be matched.

they certainly do not have the same sensor, the K100D shares it's 6 megapixel sensor with the older *ist line while the K10D has an all new 10.2 megapixel sensor.

The 10D is a generally more upmarket semi-pro model, it is fully capable of producing professional level results in the right hands and with the right lenses. It is larger, more robust and has a wider variety of "creative" modes for the advanced photographer.

The K100D is more of an entry level model. It has some clever features such as SR (though the K10Ds SR is supposed to be better) and it has more scene modes to suit the beginner just starting to get into SLR photography.

gotta be worth asking, they might feel sorry for you and throw one in.

Still I agree with Matt, Picstop and 7dayshop are your friends for cheap SD cards. I just bought myself a 1GB Sandisk Ultra II card from 7dayshop for £14.49.

And if you really are feeling poor after splashing out on the K10D, 7dayshop have Samsung cards at £4.25 for 1GB. They aren't fast, but I've been using them ever since I got my Lumix compact and have never had a problem.

sorry to hear you are having to wait! hopefully it wont be too long a wait, but it will be worth it in the end!

guess thats the price we pay for Pentax gaining popularity


good heavens you're quite right, almost tempting to flog my 1.7 A series and buy a brand new 1.4 FA!

or, if you're feeling poor and don't mind manual focus, the SMC-A 1.7 can be picked up for ~£30 on ebay. I have one and it works beautifully with my *istDL2 and K10D, all functions available except autofocus.

I believe Chris at SRS microsystems has SMC FA 50mm 1.4's for £160 brand new. IMHO the prices for AF standards on ebay are over-inflated.

M series lenses have no electrics, and *ist series bodys have no mechanical meter coupling.

this means that M series lenses can only be used in stop down metering mode.

There are two ways in which they may be used

1. Set the camera to M, and set shutter speed using the E-dial and aperture using the aperture ring. If you hit the AE-Lock button, the camera will briefly stop down the lens, take a meter reading, set a suitable shutter speed and open up again.

2. Set the camera to anything other than M. This will give you Av mode, except that the camera will not stop down the lens. No matter where the aperture ring is, the camera will meter and shoot at wide open.


With a little bit of getting used to, method 1 is very useable and really doesn't cause a problem. If you are shooting RAW you have some latitude to recover from slightly imperfect exposure. Method 2 is really only useful shooting fast action in lowish light when you would have been wide open anyway, but in those situations it comes in very handy.


hope this helps

interesting, now its my turn to , having assumed that since it does (sortof) work it was intentional. Must admit my scrutiny of the K10D manual was not as thorough as it was for my DL2.




If they had intentionally made the K10D incompatible with old lenses, why make all the fuss over all K mount lenses being usable?

If they'd said non-A lenses were incompatible and I had discovered that they work as well as they do then I'd have been happy.

yes you can, however the metering on the K10 is not very reliable with non-A lenses. If these lenses are very important to you then you are probably better off with a *ist series DSLR.

I have used my CZ Flektogon and Sonar with my *istDL2 with great success but on the K10D I have to take the metering with a grain of salt.

not quite sure what you mean by this John, as discussed elsewhere there are issues with K10 metering with non-A lenses, but these are every bit as real when using the DOF preview to stop down as they are when you hit the green button.

this was true on the MZ-50, but the digital bodies are cleverer. They don't actuate the stop down mechanism unless they are in M mode or the lens is in "A"

On a *istD or KD digital camera setting anything other than M with an M series lens attached results in Av mode locked at wide open aperture (regardless of where the aperture ring actually is).