I love the very near foreground with its frothy detail and gentle light.

I think one problem composition-wise is the angle that the wave is crossing over on - it kind of cuts off the flow of the leading line ripple and conflicts - maybe another with no wave would work better? Also the wave is squeezed in rather near to the horizon, so it may be an element to sacrifice?

It may be the poor monitor I'm using here at the moment, but I'm seeing some banding in the sky, and some blue interference? If it is there then a bit of NR should clear it out

Yes, I guess the 24mm on 35mm (that's what you shoot isn't it?) is an ideal wide angle for the purposes. Thanks for that info on the A setting, I wasn't aware of that. I guess at the speeds you'd be working at getting it all set up one extra twist of the aperture ring won't make much difference!

Actually I enjoy the physicality of using the ring for aperture on the 'M' series zoom I have, and the Tamron Adaptal prime, but it is easier to lose track of your settings thats for sure.

So, do you think you might try the Samyang TS?

Some good angles and views, and nicely lit. I agree about the shutter speeds - the creamy flowing look doesn't quite suit these particular 'water action' shots.

I read reports some time ago (maybe even here on PU) of the release of a new Samyang version of the 24mm TS, and as for all Samyang still camera lenses it was coming out for K mount. It was expected to be a quality item, although good value also. Not sure about the 'A' setting for aperture as on other K-mount options from this brand - its certainly a big plus. If you say the Walimex doesn't have it maybe the Samyang doesn't either.

Anyway, I wonder what happened to it? Anyone know if its available? I'm suprised if its available not to have heard from PU members using it - its a valuable addition to our collections surely for landscape & architectural work?

Just having another look, I should have added that I was impressed not to see any significant noise throughout, and you're using a K7 right? I'm assuming its all handheld - what ISOs were you needing? In any case, its an impressive performance from the nearly 5 year old model.

I can't understand how he does - if I was out up the mountains as much as he is I'd have been left on my own years ago!

A great photographic year, and another one coming! And the K3 is only warming up

In fact there are some ultra-wides where it is impractical to fit any kind of polariser - my Samyang 14mm falls into that category. Of course, for wide shots with big skies a polariser can be a two-edged sword as it will generally produce an uneven effect, mostly noticable on blue skies, which would be fiddly to correct with gradients in software.

But, we are more fortunate now than ever and have some very flexible options ... I didn't worry about the lack of an optical polarisor for my Samyang, because I already have a quality and entirely controllable software polariser filter available!

What would be interesting to know is whether the planners at Ricoh / Pentax think they need to develop a new 'standard' zoom for a 'FF' model release, ie something like a 24-85mm, along with a new 'FF' telephoto zoom (eg: 70-300), presumably with the new coatings and revamped AF system.

This would indicate whether or not they see the FF future as something to market in a similar way to APS-C as a kit option, an option for starters - this would reflect the upwards trend in quality spoken of earlier, even for novice photographers.

Or, with no 'kit' style lenses, body only, (but probably with revamped primes available alongside, as referred to here), more as a premium upgrade for the established Pentax enthusiest or Pro.

You both, plus others on here, have clearly seen some benefits with a FF sensor. For someone like me with only experience on APS-C, based on the potential you've seen elsewhere, what would you tell me I can look forward to on my future Pentax FF DSLR? What are the most significant 'improvements' I should be excited about, and saving up for, (apart from the obvious and already much emphasised cropping capacity, larger prints, wide angle advantages) ?