You're on! Just don't give me something thats completely blue please, or I promise you I will just end up making it yellow

No, lets try and keep colour balance the same - in theory if we don't touch the colour or saturation controls they should come out fairly closely. I'll send a PM with an email.

Yes, this little camera is certainly holding its own out amongst the big boys. It must be a very handy little device, and I have heard that the menus are similar to the DSLRs, which helps for consistency.

A nice first set from a excellent little camera Philip!

I look forward to working on it! Can't be tonight unfortunately, not on a strong enough internet signal for downloading, but I'll pick them up tomorrow.

Overall effect Andrew, yes, better than the original, but perhaps not as far as an 'as the eye sees it' rendition. Detail? ... There are telltale signs of brush work near the edges, like on the lip of the bottom sill on your crop where the darker window bleeds over to the lighter sill, so this is not HDR I think. This can be seen also on the full size where you've brushed the window tone over onto the surrounding framework before it drops into shadow. A very valient attempt, but it only points up the difficulty of a blended approach, which is what I've said all along.

Do I have to eat all these words? Or is it time for another HDR?

Photomatix is the market leader here - if you want I'll take a few of the RAWs and give it a whirl.

OK, can do - if you've got a suitable shot with difficult noise you could put it through DXO plus whatever else you use for final output, and I'll try Sagelight plus Photoshop with Topaz DeNoise! We'll start a thread, throw them up without any identifier and let the members decide!

The power of marketing! Jon, no reason to doubt your judgements at all But if you're ever up for that shootout ....

Thats just a way of ignoring the issue. Of course you want to get a great shot to start with - but its still important to consider what best to do with it after that. David, sure, if you want to only detail one aspect of the scene - interior or the stained glass, fine ... throw away the rest. But if we want a technically realistic rendition of what the eye can perceive then we must pursue the right approach to that.

For me the pursuit of that technical perfection is a worthy aim in itself, and can lead to natural beauty just through pure quality presentation.

Jon, your 'two stops' may well be a way of internalising the differences for an individual, but it can't be a serious measurement between a range of programmes and a range of user experience. How do we know that another photographer could not start out on the same shot with different software and achieve demonstratably superiour results? Unless you have a noise reduction processing shootout!

Bjorn, Sagelight includes a 'Smart Light' panel, with superb control over highlights, shadow recovery and contrast. You alternate between a strength and range control (strength is like a layer opacity setting, range adjusts the 'coverage' of the adjustment). You will be amazed at the power of shadow recovery - I am, and I've got a K7!

There is a great polariser filter as well as an excellent ND grad panel with control over angle, softness and opacity. Well worth a try!

I assume you're addressing this equally to all those on this thread who have not been talking of 'art', but indeed technicalities? I'm sure you don't mean to be discriminatory?

Colour is a minor matter here - my only point was about the overly tungsten cast on the original - easily sorted by Andrew. I fail to see the relevence of any colour issues on some shots of mine many months ago to this discussion.

If you're trying to sync separate audio & video recordings on different tracks, I'd still record the audio on the camera at the same time as the 'master' audio from a dedicated audio recording - then you can expand the waveform display on the audio tracks and use the shapes from the camera recording to precisely position the master tracks underneath.

Cut the stream in a few places where the video cuts as well and you have a little room to play with. If you can't line everything up exactly then a small amount of time-shifting on a video track event won't matter much, I mean a half second or so.