The cry for long lenses is followed by a cry over a " higher than wanted" price.

Is there a reason why a Pentax long lens should cost less than a similar lens from another top brand?

Seriously, no snipe intended to anyone here, it follows that there is a market price for such lenses and if you want one, you pay the going rate.

Preferably the going rate outside of the UK which is always cheaper?

But then again, Pentax may sell it for a lot less than the competition and make everyone happy.

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As good as it gets.

The Hanging in Iran takes me back to Dahran where they publicly beheaded murderers and rapists etc. A large water wagon then cleaned up the area of the square. Never seemed to stop further, similar crimes though.

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Hmmm, Pentax FF. Let's see if it does appear. May make use of my 15mm, shift and Ltd's yet?

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Should see the price of Haggis in West Australia. Major problem getting decent haggis here. Even a pint is nearly seven pounds now.

Hard times........

And so do I but I see many more Sony's and Panasonics in use out on the streets compared to DSLR's in general.

Joe public buys cameras that make profits, not photographers.

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It was only a general comment Alan, possibly Pentax being the exception. Sigma et al do the needful and make a FF optic for the longer end of the lenses.
Still, it will be interesting once it’s released to see how many use it and then invest in a suitable mount etc to go with it.

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A 500 on FF has a FOV wider than on APS, yes? Effective FOV on an APS is that of 750mm. It don't matter what the sensor size is, the actual magnification of the lens won't change. So a sparrow shot with APS or FF will be the same size at the same distance as far as the actual bird size on the image is concerned. The remaining image will either show more or less dependent upon sensor size.

We really need to refrain from imagining that a cropped sensor and long lens gets you closer than a FF with the same lens.

As mentioned by Alan, "560mm will give you a decent sized shot of a Sparrow or similar at about 5 metres, cut that down to 4 and you'd struggle to get the bird in the frame". Not on a FF you won’t.

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Well the games afoot. Sony have announced a dust and moisture resistant 500mm f/4 along with a new FF DSLR. Also 4 metre min focus. So there will be plenty of competition for peoples long lens money.

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Just looking at the picture Don and it brings to mind:

On the left, Fisher Price cam toy for 3-5 yr olds, on the right, a cutting edge cool to be seen with camera for 17-45 yr olds.

With or without a lens, thinner wins. Look at mobile phones, then imagine a clunky fat one is released, would it be widely accepted?

Only an opinion and observation. The K-01 is indeed a very very brave move by Pentax.

The lens road map has been better accepted. Let's see how it sells. I've no doubts that the results will be very good.

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Sigma 500mm f/4.5 is also 4 metres.

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