New 560mm minimum focus distance
Posted 09/02/2012 - 12:18
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Sigma 500mm f/4.5 is also 4 metres.
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Too far from a shore.
Posted 09/02/2012 - 12:55
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it's based on a telescope... I'm thinking 4 meters min... under six for sure.
to be fair a short extension tube is what many pro use with tele's to get in closer...
If I was up close birding, I'd want the 200mm with af 1.7 and a short extension tube combined...
I've tried this with the 100 macro and it does focus so I'd think the 200mm would work... anything f4 or slower..I dunno.. kiss af goodbye I suspect.
I know you don't need the extension tube with a macro, but I tried it to see if it would work because I was hoping to buy the 200 da, but life gets in the way sometimes and I'm still waiting for it... I tried it with my sigma 400 but af no go unless full bright sun and image quality not impressive!
to be fair a short extension tube is what many pro use with tele's to get in closer...
If I was up close birding, I'd want the 200mm with af 1.7 and a short extension tube combined...
I've tried this with the 100 macro and it does focus so I'd think the 200mm would work... anything f4 or slower..I dunno.. kiss af goodbye I suspect.
I know you don't need the extension tube with a macro, but I tried it to see if it would work because I was hoping to buy the 200 da, but life gets in the way sometimes and I'm still waiting for it... I tried it with my sigma 400 but af no go unless full bright sun and image quality not impressive!
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Posted 09/02/2012 - 13:00
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If it's based on a telescope....... it should focus on the
moon without any problems
moon without any problems
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Posted 09/02/2012 - 13:02
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Well the games afoot. Sony have announced a dust and moisture resistant 500mm f/4 along with a new FF DSLR. Also 4 metre min focus. So there will be plenty of competition for peoples long lens money.
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Too far from a shore.
Posted 09/02/2012 - 13:08
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K10D wrote:
Well the games afoot. Sony have announced a dust and moisture resistant 500mm f/4 along with a new FF DSLR. Also 4 metre min focus. So there will be plenty of competition for peoples long lens money.
Best regards
gotta remember the 500 on a ff is like 500 fov..Well the games afoot. Sony have announced a dust and moisture resistant 500mm f/4 along with a new FF DSLR. Also 4 metre min focus. So there will be plenty of competition for peoples long lens money.
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550 on a 1.5 crop aps-c sensor.....
do the math....
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Posted 09/02/2012 - 13:29
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Don wrote:
550 on a 1.5 crop aps-c sensor.....
do the math....
Thats 330mm equivalent The Pentax 300mm is £900 .......... The Sony equivalent for FF is HOW MUCH!!!!
K10D wrote:
Well the games afoot. Sony have announced a dust and moisture resistant 500mm f/4 along with a new FF DSLR. Also 4 metre min focus. So there will be plenty of competition for peoples long lens money.
Best regards
gotta remember the 500 on a ff is like 500 fov..Well the games afoot. Sony have announced a dust and moisture resistant 500mm f/4 along with a new FF DSLR. Also 4 metre min focus. So there will be plenty of competition for peoples long lens money.
Best regards
550 on a 1.5 crop aps-c sensor.....
do the math....
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Posted 09/02/2012 - 13:33
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Algernon wrote:
If it's based on a telescope....... it should focus on the
moon without any problems
My Tasco scope needs extreme care to focus on the moon through the K100d, (not yet tried it with the K7's brighter viewfinder/liveview). So it's not a foregone conclusion.If it's based on a telescope....... it should focus on the
moon without any problems
Zoomed out to 1000mm (f16) it's possible, at 4000mm (f64) diffraction limiting means nothing come to focus via the camera.
No doubt the 560 will outclass my Tasco by a huge margin. Better start saving...
Mike
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Posted 09/02/2012 - 13:34
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I cant see what the problem is with the minimum focus distance, 560mm will give you a decent sized shot of a Sparrow or similar at about 5 metres, cut that down to 4 and you'd struggle to get the bird in the frame, the only thing it will stop you doing is filling the frame with anything smaller such as butterflies etc.
If the lens had been a zoom then min. focus would have really mattered.
We need a 300-500 f4-f5.6 zoom, minimum focus of 2 metres at 300, also with matching 2x converter, all SDM and weather sealed of course and priced at around £1500 + £150 for the T/C
If the lens had been a zoom then min. focus would have really mattered.
We need a 300-500 f4-f5.6 zoom, minimum focus of 2 metres at 300, also with matching 2x converter, all SDM and weather sealed of course and priced at around £1500 + £150 for the T/C
Posted 09/02/2012 - 13:43
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fatspider wrote:
I cant see what the problem is with the minimum focus distance, 560mm will give you a decent sized shot of a Sparrow or similar at about 5 metres
I agree, but I've read that "The lens is optimized for rendering distant subjects" and "The DA 560mm is based on optics used in astronomical telescopes" so what if the minimum focus distance is 10 metres?
I cant see what the problem is with the minimum focus distance, 560mm will give you a decent sized shot of a Sparrow or similar at about 5 metres
Posted 09/02/2012 - 13:47
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I would imagine astronomical telescopes need to be particularly rigorous in removing chromatic aberration, so that sounds promising. It does just say "based on" though, so we'll need to see what we get when there's more detail about.
Like all lenses, the 560mm will be aimed at a particular purpose and balanced up accordingly.
Like all lenses, the 560mm will be aimed at a particular purpose and balanced up accordingly.
Best regards, John
Posted 09/02/2012 - 13:54
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Algernon wrote:
ummn.. I calculated the 550 on a pentax aps-c to be 880 mm equivalent..
Don wrote:
550 on a 1.5 crop aps-c sensor.....
do the math....
Thats 330mm equivalent The Pentax 300mm is £900 .......... The Sony equivalent for FF is HOW MUCH!!!! K10D wrote:
Well the games afoot. Sony have announced a dust and moisture resistant 500mm f/4 along with a new FF DSLR. Also 4 metre min focus. So there will be plenty of competition for peoples long lens money.
Best regards
gotta remember the 500 on a ff is like 500 fov..Well the games afoot. Sony have announced a dust and moisture resistant 500mm f/4 along with a new FF DSLR. Also 4 metre min focus. So there will be plenty of competition for peoples long lens money.
Best regards
550 on a 1.5 crop aps-c sensor.....
do the math....
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Posted 09/02/2012 - 18:03
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K10D wrote:
Well the games afoot. Sony have announced a dust and moisture resistant 500mm f/4 along with a new FF DSLR. Also 4 metre min focus. So there will be plenty of competition for peoples long lens money.
Best regards
I don't think there wil be a long queue .. the Sony is variously being quoted as US$13,000 - $18,000
Well the games afoot. Sony have announced a dust and moisture resistant 500mm f/4 along with a new FF DSLR. Also 4 metre min focus. So there will be plenty of competition for peoples long lens money.
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This could the the deal breaker for me I've had a look and the minimum focus for the Nikon 500mm F4 is 4 metres, I'm guessing the 560mm will need to focus at about 6m to make it a viable birding lens.