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Comment by jules posted on Well what D'you know??? at 14/06/2017 - 15:41
Bill, the problem we have is that at £1600, they arn't going to sell, in my local Camera shop there is a second hand D500 and a 200-500mm lens, for just shy of £2300, if I shot anything moving these days thats where my money would go.
I think it is inevitable that the price of a new K3 will be above the D7500 but it will have to be well below the price of the D500, unless they are going to update all the SDM lenses to DC at the same time, and I can't see that happening anytime soon TBH, who other than a Pentax user would want it.
They have either to just become a niche outdoors/travel camera maker, or they have to at least try to play catch up but that will take some big bucks, and some very good lawyers to avoid patent infringments, I'm hoping that they drop the K70 down to entry level and what a good entry level it would be! Drop the KP price a bit to take up the middleish ground which would allow them to put the K3 in at about £1300, well below the price of a D500/7DMKIII, no more KS1's, focus on quality.
At least everyone makes lenses to fit Nikons Bill... Sigh
I think it is inevitable that the price of a new K3 will be above the D7500 but it will have to be well below the price of the D500, unless they are going to update all the SDM lenses to DC at the same time, and I can't see that happening anytime soon TBH, who other than a Pentax user would want it.
They have either to just become a niche outdoors/travel camera maker, or they have to at least try to play catch up but that will take some big bucks, and some very good lawyers to avoid patent infringments, I'm hoping that they drop the K70 down to entry level and what a good entry level it would be! Drop the KP price a bit to take up the middleish ground which would allow them to put the K3 in at about £1300, well below the price of a D500/7DMKIII, no more KS1's, focus on quality.
At least everyone makes lenses to fit Nikons Bill... Sigh
Comment by jules posted on Well what D'you know??? at 14/06/2017 - 11:09
wvbarnes wrote:
The 55 -300 PLM is excellent optically (see my gallery on here) and improves AFC on my K3II considerably.
The zoom ring can be stiff new (see John's review) and I had a failure of the retraction stop which required a replacement (very straight forward from Amazon - replacement smoother action too). Focux ring is very smooth but continuous action means no infinity stop as with 18 135 and I guess the 16 - 85.
The lens is f4.5 to 100mm and F 5.6 to 260mm.
Is it tough enough for heavy or pro use? Not sure as it's lightness makes you wonder.
Thankyou for that info Bill, so it stays at F5.6 most of the way thru it's zoom range, that might not be too bad after all? I'm seeing some good results from it on the American forum too, you seem to be really enjoying it and it fits very well with my "lighter" weight ethos, I'll keep it on the hot plate for now do some more looking into it and see if it sizzles! The 55 -300 PLM is excellent optically (see my gallery on here) and improves AFC on my K3II considerably.
The zoom ring can be stiff new (see John's review) and I had a failure of the retraction stop which required a replacement (very straight forward from Amazon - replacement smoother action too). Focux ring is very smooth but continuous action means no infinity stop as with 18 135 and I guess the 16 - 85.
The lens is f4.5 to 100mm and F 5.6 to 260mm.
Is it tough enough for heavy or pro use? Not sure as it's lightness makes you wonder.
You'll not like this quote I just read over in the American forum, this guy has a habit of being right a lot of the time...
"Is a price around 1700 - 2000 $€ OK for an upper APS-C class than K-3 ll line?"
Best regards Asahi Man...
Comment by jules posted on Well what D'you know??? at 14/06/2017 - 04:57
I've sent Doug a begging email to try to get swapsies! Here's hoping
This has really knocked my confidence in SDM, how you doing with that 55-300 WR PLM RE?
If it's any good I might just trade in my 50-135mm F2.8 for one, nowhere near as bright I know but certaintly versatile in focal length terms...
This has really knocked my confidence in SDM, how you doing with that 55-300 WR PLM RE?
If it's any good I might just trade in my 50-135mm F2.8 for one, nowhere near as bright I know but certaintly versatile in focal length terms...
Comment by jules posted on Well what D'you know??? at 12/06/2017 - 08:28
It's on it's way back, I got SRS here in the UK to test their stock on the KP and they all do it!
So thats that then, so 16-85 or 20-40? All opinions are welcome.
I also have the 12-24 and the 50-135, so the Ltd would slot in nicely, however I've just picked up a bargain 21mm, which would immediately become superflous, so I'm leaning toward the 16-85 and picking up the cheaper green ring Ltd's as and when I can for a super lightweight and super quality kit for the mountain hikes,21mm F3.2/35mm or 40mm F2.8 (I don't macro!) and the 70mm F2.4,
these would pretty much replace the 16-50mm for lens speed...
So thats that then, so 16-85 or 20-40? All opinions are welcome.
I also have the 12-24 and the 50-135, so the Ltd would slot in nicely, however I've just picked up a bargain 21mm, which would immediately become superflous, so I'm leaning toward the 16-85 and picking up the cheaper green ring Ltd's as and when I can for a super lightweight and super quality kit for the mountain hikes,21mm F3.2/35mm or 40mm F2.8 (I don't macro!) and the 70mm F2.4,
these would pretty much replace the 16-50mm for lens speed...
Comment by jules posted on Well what D'you know??? at 10/06/2017 - 23:12
Overpriced is relative BIll and I think we'll see that when and indeed if they replace the K3 II but I do think that the price of the KP will fall when the newbie, whatever it is comes out. With the recent increase in price of the K1 to a much more realistic £1999 and the list price of the KP falling to say £999 (I know you think this is still too much!) There is a bit of wiggle room for the K3 II replacement price to be a bit lower than the halfway house of £1500. With discounting we may start to see the KP down to maybe £899 pretty soon after a new K3 launch, to fill the gap between the K70 and the K3 III and hopefully the new K3 III will go for around £1300? All conjecture of course!
I've had a 20-40mm before and if you take it as the replacement for a 21/35/40 ltd's (Ignoring the 35's macro ability) it is indeed a very good lens but as a zoom somewhat frustrating to use, it's always neither wide enough or long enough but thats just me! (Landscape shooters eh?) I get OCD about not changing lenses in the summer due to the pollen, which is daft I know! Though as a ltd zoom it's a real winner, optically as good as the 21, not quite as good as the 35 or 40. Not really in the game for me now, as I just picked up a perfect green ring 21mm for £175. It's looking more and more like the 16-85 for me, as I've kind of lost faith in the 16-50, nothing else out there seems to be weather sealed... I live in Cumbria...
I've had a 20-40mm before and if you take it as the replacement for a 21/35/40 ltd's (Ignoring the 35's macro ability) it is indeed a very good lens but as a zoom somewhat frustrating to use, it's always neither wide enough or long enough but thats just me! (Landscape shooters eh?) I get OCD about not changing lenses in the summer due to the pollen, which is daft I know! Though as a ltd zoom it's a real winner, optically as good as the 21, not quite as good as the 35 or 40. Not really in the game for me now, as I just picked up a perfect green ring 21mm for £175. It's looking more and more like the 16-85 for me, as I've kind of lost faith in the 16-50, nothing else out there seems to be weather sealed... I live in Cumbria...
Comment by jules posted on Well what D'you know??? at 09/06/2017 - 05:24
Lens number three, in this now trilogy is probably going back!
Alternatives will be the 16-85mm and the 20-40, so can you give me your opinions on the optics in real world use of either of these two, as I think I've given the 16-50 a fair crack this time around! Wondering if it's not something to do with interaction with the KP? None of my other lenses do it, so the 16-50 is going off the radar which is a shame as I really like the lens. Leaning twoards the 16-85 and I'll buy two or three ltd lenses to get back the lens speed where required.
Alternatives will be the 16-85mm and the 20-40, so can you give me your opinions on the optics in real world use of either of these two, as I think I've given the 16-50 a fair crack this time around! Wondering if it's not something to do with interaction with the KP? None of my other lenses do it, so the 16-50 is going off the radar which is a shame as I really like the lens. Leaning twoards the 16-85 and I'll buy two or three ltd lenses to get back the lens speed where required.
Comment by jules posted on Well what D'you know??? at 08/06/2017 - 17:05
Comment by jules posted on SRS Pentax Refurbs, some good bargains to be had... at 03/06/2017 - 11:40
wvbarnes wrote:
For me it was also the F4 300 star and matching tele adapter. AFC for wildlife was a problem with the K3 though.I always ended up with having to use AFS and missed too much. Tele adapter reducing depth of field probably contributed.
Travel abroad also increased desire for a lighter kit took me to looking at mirrorless. Too expensive and not so small as you'd think I decided.
I've sold the prime 300 F4 and adapter.
I've moved to and been delighted by the new lighter 55 - 300mm PLM lens and the K3 II. They seem to like each other a lot. AFC now works as intended with much higher success rate. Improved SR also a nice improvement in low light or slower shutter with telephoto than previously possible.
The 300 F4 is a beauty no doubt and one of the quicker SDM's, I've found whatever brand I've used in the past when you add a convertor all bets are off! PLM seems like a great idea and I hope to see it expanded when they get thier heads around increasing the motor power so they can put it in the bigger F2.8 (Or faster) glass, I'm lovin the 5 axis stabilisation in my KP, which has become even better since I gave up coffee!For me it was also the F4 300 star and matching tele adapter. AFC for wildlife was a problem with the K3 though.I always ended up with having to use AFS and missed too much. Tele adapter reducing depth of field probably contributed.
Travel abroad also increased desire for a lighter kit took me to looking at mirrorless. Too expensive and not so small as you'd think I decided.
I've sold the prime 300 F4 and adapter.
I've moved to and been delighted by the new lighter 55 - 300mm PLM lens and the K3 II. They seem to like each other a lot. AFC now works as intended with much higher success rate. Improved SR also a nice improvement in low light or slower shutter with telephoto than previously possible.
I've tried the Fuji mirrorless system for the last two years but it is not the panacea it seems, there are pluses and minuses on both sides of the grass...
Comment by jules posted on Game changers at 02/06/2017 - 13:10
richandfleur wrote:
Game changer for me was DSLR video. Suddenly I wasn't limited to the handicam point and shoot of past years, and it's associated one fixed lens. I could introduce that cinematic depth of feel into my videos and the K-30 transformed my video look instantly. It gave me an interchangeable lens platform, and I've never looked back.
The update I expected, which would return the obvious omission of real Pentax mechanical stabilisation of the previous K-x/K-7/K-5 series, never came though unfortunately
It is a shame especially when they reckon they can do it in the K70 and the KP (Not sure about the KS2)?Game changer for me was DSLR video. Suddenly I wasn't limited to the handicam point and shoot of past years, and it's associated one fixed lens. I could introduce that cinematic depth of feel into my videos and the K-30 transformed my video look instantly. It gave me an interchangeable lens platform, and I've never looked back.
The update I expected, which would return the obvious omission of real Pentax mechanical stabilisation of the previous K-x/K-7/K-5 series, never came though unfortunately
Comment by jules posted on Game changers at 02/06/2017 - 13:03
A lot of conclusions jumped to here! Traditionally Pentax have offered more than the other brands for less cash - the K1 is still cheaper than the D810 even at the new price. No reason to think that would change.
K1 price is to fish in the K3 users to get em to buy a cheap FF and some pricey and heavy glass, then when they've unloaded it all BAM! K3 MKIII...