Clearly an emotive subject, and an important one, perhaps better discussed in the other thread so it's all in one place.

Here we should really be discussing the competition, the pictures so far really being pretty harmless, which is what we might expect.

However, all are entitled to an opinion.

Yes, you are indeed allowed an opinion. If you said no when you were the adult in charge, then the answer is no.

Polarisers will work in any light, provided it actually is polarised....this is not always the case.

Nothing muysterious and not a new Pentax camera so don't get over excited! But certainly reviews are on the way of things that will interest Robbie and are relevant to this discussion.

The DA Limited lenses are not Tessar lenses. Tessar lenses are four element designs that build upon the Triotar (three element) design with a cemented doublet as the rear group.

Planar lenses are older still and are five or six element designs with wider apertures than the Tessar.

Sonnar lenses are telephoto designs, probably five elements.

Then we have the wide angle Biogons, Distagons, etc.

Many lens designs may well start off with the basic concept of one of these designs, particularly symmetrical designs, but computer design and new glasses have moved things along very considerably.

Keep an eye on the newest reviews over at EPZ.

I've started off the competition with my entry, so time to put our thinking caps on and find something good that fits the brief!

If you frequest EPZ you will have seen there are currently speed issues as a server upgrade goes on. It may have affected us here as well, although not as badly as over there.

It does seem to be better this evening.

Hyperfocal distance can be used very effectively with this rule of thumb:

Set a small aperture and focus on a point one third of the way into the scene. This will maximise DOF.

The fickle Miss Julian has left the room.