Am I missing something here? What is the new topic?

I have no experience of this but Scott Kelby in his Digital Photography Book 2 suggests using the silver side indoors, and the gold side outdoors. He says it gives a more natural effect. Maybe others can confirm this?

I like number 2, as Father Ted says the colours of the trees make it for me.

Note to self: don't visit Memphis in summer, or autumn, spring maybe???

Good job you didn't have your job in the 80's then.

Once again sorry to have hijacked your thread.

I think the new model will be announced at the PMA.
I suspect the K20D is not doing as well as the K10D did, and that may be the reason for the discounting. Many people went for the K10D and don't want to upgrade, if that is the right word, to the K20D so soon.
Unless the new model is truly spectacular, I shall stick to the K20D and skip a generation again, as I did with the Ds.

The BP worked at RAL making onboard software for satellites. He was head of the real-time programming team. We both worked at Appleton Labs in Datchet, and moved to Wantage when it merged with Rutherford.

Yep I am serious, but I was only there for one day - the day the women encircled the camp. I had three young kids, one a baby, and couldn't stay there, much as I would have liked to. We lived down the road in Wantage, so it was a very real, and worrying situation for me, and for my girlfriends. We organised a few cars and went for the day of the big demo. One used to go regularly with food for the "Wimmin" and do the washing for some of them, but didn't stay as she had 6(!) kids.
It is something I am very proud of actually. We may not have made a real difference but we did make our voices heard at a time when the government was happily running roughshod over every one and every thing.

Sorry to have hijacked your thread Rob

It's not only in the UK that Pentax are failing to promote their cameras. Here in Holland, and I believe in Belgium too, it is almost impossible to find a shop, other than the likes of K'berg and Kamera Express, that stock Pentax. And even Kamera Express has very little actually in stock.
It was the same in Arizona in May.

Hyram, that was me, outside the gates

For a satellite to show up that large on a photo it would need to be huge - I mean humongous! Most geostationary sats are small, certainly not the size of the ISS which is what it would need to be to show up that big I would think.
If I remember I'll ask the Bill Payer - he used to work on satellites.

Edit. Idiot that I am - a geostationary orbit is above the equator, so unless the Solway has moved south without us noticing it won't be a geostationary satellite