I wonder if Teogin is an alias for Ricehigh.

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It's not what was said, it's the way it was said.

Using upper case on the Internet is regarded as shouting, and telling people what to do rather than suggesting what they might do, is not a good way to win friends and influence people.

This person needs to learn some manners, and to learn something of the subject he is talking about, before coming on here and yelling at us.

Nobody who uses a film camera is going to buy a DA lens, and nobody who uses digital is going to buy a DA lens if he thinks he might one day wish to revert to film. This advice didn't need giving, and especially not in the form of an order.

I suggest we move on.

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Surely the point, Kimbo, is that a bigger sensor will always cost more than a small one, and people always buy on price unless there are very good reasons not to.

Personally, I am buying the K10D primarily for speed. The larger sensor is pretty much irrelevant to me; but greater speed justifies me buying the K10D rather than, say, the K100D.

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Kimbo,

There isn't a hope in hell of a full frame Pentax DSLR. It's much more likely that Canon will abandon full frame in three years time when they see all the pros defecting to the cheaper, smaller, lighter, better bodies from Nikon and Pentax.

They're between Scylla and Charybdis. For studio and landscape work, the 6x6 and 645 cameras provide much better quality, and for sports, wildlife, and general photography the smaller APS-C bodies provide more than adequate quality in a much more portable (and economical) package.

If people actually needed full frame (as opposed to bleating about it), Nikon would be going out of business and Canon would be selling full frame in its consumer range.

On the contrary, of the three manufacturers who produced full frame bodies, two have stopped doing so.

Now if full frame could be produced for the same price as APS-C, it might be a different story. But it can't, and never will be, and very few people are prepared to put their money where their mouth is, and stump up the considerable difference.

If the nitwit who started this thread NEEDED full frame, he wouldn't be shooting his mouth here, he would already have a Canon or Kodak or Contax camera.

But he doesn't need one. He just needs to bleat.

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Many people are happy to pay much more. If it's in good nick, and you want it, snap it up.

If you don't want it, I know somebody who is very interested. No prizes for guessing who.

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The problem is that the counter resets at 10,000, so you don't know if the camera has taken 10,000 or 60,000 pictures; or 160,000.

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I think the K1D is almost a certainty now, but I think it will be much more expensive than the K10D.

It would have to have a high top shutter speed, as the article mentions, and things like that will push the price up considerably. Then add the fact that a high price will mean low sales, and therefore no economies of scale, and that will push the price up further.

So I reckon we are talking about £2,000 or £3,000. This is money that could otherwise be spent on lenses.

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Haven't been to Manchester for years. If I can make it, I should be delighted to come.

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Yup, Knutsford has been disoragnised for years.

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Personally, I'm waiting for the new DA* 16-50 1:2.8.

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