Golf....

The answer is simple:

If your a "photographer" then you go for the lens.

If your a "gear freak" then go for the K10D.

However......if your a "photographer" AND "gear freak" then you have a serious problem just find a dealer who will cut you a good deal on a K10D with a Wide angle lens and spend next years bonus before you get it

Re-Matts reply;

I tried to snap away before the "SR" had locked on.......and found I couldn't, or maybe I wasn't quick enough.
My K10D doesn't mess about when it comes to SR, it seems to work as soon as the lens is in focus so I dont see how Jonathan's problem could be Matts sugestion.

Jonathan: Are you expecting too much from the SR I wonder? As for it making a noise, the only time I can hear my sensor moving is when It vibrates to clean, your description of been able to hear the sensor while the shutter is open seems a bit odd, I just tried a long exposure and had to put my ear to the back of the camera body to hear anything, in my opinion if your using shutter speeds long enough to detect that sort of niose then your pushing the SR waaaaay beyond its boundries.

God I wish I was 16 again

Sadly I now look at beautiful girls like a photographer looks at a landscape (cos the wife would beat me senseless otherwise )

Seriously though, this is a very nice shot Galoot, I would have been pleased with that myself, and who cares about the crinkly curtain etc.

I should hope so too Don Mothers (and Fathers) in law are the best thing since sliced bread....at least mine were, like second parents in fact. And yes folks I can also confim my wife HATES shopping and DOESN'T know how to use a credit card.......I just dont know what I did right in my previous life

Merry Christmas

Nice shot Lilly, but as a cat lover myself I may be biased,
I hope you got that run off and made into this years family xmas cards and I hope Alvin gets some extra turkey for being so cooperative.

I find I also get strange colours on twigs with my bigma, especially at higher ISO, I also get it with my Pentax 80-320.

I also hate you with a vengeance thats another Kingfisher you got and I didn't It is however nice to know that others are having the same difficulties catching Long Tailed Tits

Thats good news Dave but on the next Yorkshire meet we'll ALL be carrying K10D's. It'll look like we got a job lot

PS: wasnt it easy cleaning the screen, I discovered how to do it on my IstD some time ago and promptly investigated all my other bodies, my MZ7 and 5n both have the same set up and I was able to remove the crud from those as well.

Some people have no self restraint

MY K10D was due for delivery the saturday before xmas last year..and we had to go out shopping fortunately one of our neighbours was in and agreed to accept the package (I didnt tell them it was for a £600 camera and £750 lens )
We got back from shopping and I casually walked over the road and enquired if my parcel had arrived (secretly hoping it had as it was the last chance of delivery before xmas)
I brought it back home and gave it to the wife who promptly wasted a ream of gift wrap and stuck it under the tree, I opened it two days later at about 3:30pm (we open pressies after lunch in our house)

And the very first shot from my K10D was the aftermath of xmas lunch;




And yes, if you check the EXIF you will see that I hadnt even bothered to set the date and time I was too eager to try out the SR, image 1/8th sec hand held

Try Cannabis