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Comment by Don posted on Photo Critique at 16/07/2011 - 17:53
Pentaxophile wrote:
Don maybe you should post some of your best work more often - seeing very successful shots is more instructive - inspiring - than having your own work deconstructed in my opinion. You may not need to hear the praise, but that's not what it's about - people will benefit in a 'soft' way from viewing the work and the comments, and discussion of how it was taken.
Also, you may view the work as 'your best stuff' but what if you are overlooking something? Could a comment not come from a fresh angle and help you reassess the way you are doing things?
And, of course, there's nothing wrong with sharing your successes with your forum buddies! It's nothing to be ashamed of.
I see mighty fine images published here every day. Some of which, I simply would not have.Don maybe you should post some of your best work more often - seeing very successful shots is more instructive - inspiring - than having your own work deconstructed in my opinion. You may not need to hear the praise, but that's not what it's about - people will benefit in a 'soft' way from viewing the work and the comments, and discussion of how it was taken.
Also, you may view the work as 'your best stuff' but what if you are overlooking something? Could a comment not come from a fresh angle and help you reassess the way you are doing things?
And, of course, there's nothing wrong with sharing your successes with your forum buddies! It's nothing to be ashamed of.
there are some very good reasons not to...
eg:
Copyright infringement... Ask Gartmore what a headache that can be...
Privacy.... A client may pay for a portrait, and may be very happy with it... doesn't they'd approve of me plastering all over the net.... 50% of marriages fail, would you want pics of you and your ex popping up all over the place?
Copyright issues... sometimes you shoot stuff for publications or important people and they don't want to give up control over their image... you want to maintain YOUR copyright on the images, and ALSO their trust.... They have to know that if you say you won't re-use or mis-use or leak the images that YOU can be trusted or you'll have people demanding you assign full copyright to them or taking their money elsewhere. (the old demanding the negatives argument in the film dayz is now copyright contracts these dayz).
bottom line.. if you don't want it stolen, keep it off the net.
Comment by Don posted on Photo Critique at 16/07/2011 - 17:43
japers45 wrote:
If someone does comment then I read it and hopefully it helps me.
I think to a degree it helps if you are a longer standing member and be active on the forum. If other members "know" you they are more likely to take an interest (rather like the "real" world)
that is a valid point. I often post something "Experimental" and even if I agree or disagree with any comments, just looking at the number of reads on the thread, and reading any feedback, gives me some idea of whether the experiment is good or not. I seldom post my best photo's. I don't need to hear a bunch of praise about something I know is good, so why bother? I'll post something when it illustrates a point or for fun, but seldom if ever just for a pat on the head...geclinke wrote:
There's only one thing worse than perceived banal comments.... no comments....
I think that really depends on how insecure you are. If I post a pic and nobody comments I couldn't give a rats bottom because having no comments tells me nothing. I wouldnt perceive this as -there are no comments so my photos are crap. There's only one thing worse than perceived banal comments.... no comments....
If someone does comment then I read it and hopefully it helps me.
I think to a degree it helps if you are a longer standing member and be active on the forum. If other members "know" you they are more likely to take an interest (rather like the "real" world)
Comment by Don posted on Photo Critique at 16/07/2011 - 17:14
simonkit wrote:
The thing about business pages though is that the "making friends" part isn't used so does that actually make it harder to promote your page - it seems it revolves around getting people to "Like" you page which then links into their own friends pages etc.
I'm new to this so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!!
Simon
fan or not, irrelevant. you want to swim in the ocean, you need to know there are sharks.... that is all....Don wrote:
Now since you want somebody, anybody preferably EVERYBODY to buy your photo services, ....GET OUT THERE AND MAKE SOME PHONEY FRIENDS AND PRETEND TO LIKE THEM!!!!!
Just sayin'. Hope that helps.
Sounds like you're a big fan DonMike-P wrote:
What's Facebook?
I have just learned to text.
take 300 narcissists, 580 businesses, 10,000 advertisers, a few phishing scam artists, who all pretend to be your friend, and pretend to like you, all hoping to get something for nothing from you... then add your relatives and ex's who want to keep tabs on you....plus your real friends are already there, now give them all a place where they can spam you with multimedia text messages 24/7... THAT is Facebook my friend.What's Facebook?
I have just learned to text.
Now since you want somebody, anybody preferably EVERYBODY to buy your photo services, ....GET OUT THERE AND MAKE SOME PHONEY FRIENDS AND PRETEND TO LIKE THEM!!!!!
Just sayin'. Hope that helps.
The thing about business pages though is that the "making friends" part isn't used so does that actually make it harder to promote your page - it seems it revolves around getting people to "Like" you page which then links into their own friends pages etc.
I'm new to this so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!!
Simon
Comment by Don posted on Who uses Facebook to promote their photography? at 16/07/2011 - 17:05
Pentaxophile wrote:
I wouldn't waste my time here if I didn't think there was a thing or two to be learned from the others...lol!Don wrote:
Life ain't fair. But we only get better when we challenge ourselves and measure our successes against those that are simply better at it than we are... in all things.
Well Don, in that case we should be very grateful we've got you on the forum then, eh? Life ain't fair. But we only get better when we challenge ourselves and measure our successes against those that are simply better at it than we are... in all things.
tell you a secret.... I have never, ever met a person that didn't have something to teach me.
Comment by Don posted on Photo Critique at 16/07/2011 - 16:31
dougf8 wrote:
well if I lost you with english is there another language you'd prefer I tried? Don wrote:
When I was little, I used to run. I was fast. I was the fasted kid I knew. All the way up until I got to highschool, then there were a couple seniors that were faster than me, so I tried harder. By the time I was a senior, I was the fastest kid again, until I tired out for the Jeux Canada Games. So I tried harder. Then they wouldn't let me run because my grades were poor. Life ain't fair. But we only get better when we challenge ourselves and measure our successes against those that are simply better at it than we are... in all things.
You lost me after the word little .... are you spouting some patronising tosh or are you saying something? When I was little, I used to run. I was fast. I was the fasted kid I knew. All the way up until I got to highschool, then there were a couple seniors that were faster than me, so I tried harder. By the time I was a senior, I was the fastest kid again, until I tired out for the Jeux Canada Games. So I tried harder. Then they wouldn't let me run because my grades were poor. Life ain't fair. But we only get better when we challenge ourselves and measure our successes against those that are simply better at it than we are... in all things.
seriously, life ain't fair, some people need to get over it.
at least here in the forum, some people may criticize for poor spelling, but at least it isn't as so bad as BANNING people for poor spelling... and a few people might even learn a little spelling to go with all the free photography advice... no harm there either...
Comment by Don posted on Photo Critique at 16/07/2011 - 16:01
Mike-P wrote:
What's Facebook?
I have just learned to text.
take 300 narcissists, 580 businesses, 10,000 advertisers, a few phishing scam artists, who all pretend to be your friend, and pretend to like you, all hoping to get something for nothing from you... then add your relatives and ex's who want to keep tabs on you....plus your real friends are already there, now give them all a place where they can spam you with multimedia text messages 24/7... THAT is Facebook my friend.What's Facebook?
I have just learned to text.
Now since you want somebody, anybody preferably EVERYBODY to buy your photo services, ....GET OUT THERE AND MAKE SOME PHONEY FRIENDS AND PRETEND TO LIKE THEM!!!!!
Just sayin'. Hope that helps.
Comment by Don posted on Who uses Facebook to promote their photography? at 16/07/2011 - 15:17
dougf8 wrote:
The ONLY criterion to use the forum is ...... nothing. (no need to prove your kit list)
The ONLY criteria to post an image is that the EXIF should be of a Pentax camera or Samsung DSLR or the image should have come from a Pentax camera in the case of SILVER etc. Or the image is of Pentax (Samsung K mount) equipment.
There is NO need to have any knowledge of photography. There is no need to have any critical skills. There is no requirement to have any training, education etc etc
So the pompous requests for "helpful/constructive" comments and the like are just elitist tripe.
If you want more, then please go and find another forum or go to college or join a camera/photography club.
By the intolerant posts of some people (spelling, grammar, constructivity)[incl me on occasion ] we should have minimum educational requirements of at least a "C" at English GCSE (or equivalent) an LRPS or "A/B" at A level photography. Which I guess would deny 99% of the forum access including half of the hypocrites who want higher standards of English/Photography.
What helpful critique comments has the OP made for others on the forum? Zero. I like nothing better than people who leade from the front.
When I was little, I used to run. I was fast. I was the fasted kid I knew. All the way up until I got to highschool, then there were a couple seniors that were faster than me, so I tried harder. By the time I was a senior, I was the fastest kid again, until I tired out for the Jeux Canada Games. So I tried harder. Then they wouldn't let me run because my grades were poor. Life ain't fair. But we only get better when we challenge ourselves and measure our successes against those that are simply better at it than we are... in all things. The ONLY criterion to use the forum is ...... nothing. (no need to prove your kit list)
The ONLY criteria to post an image is that the EXIF should be of a Pentax camera or Samsung DSLR or the image should have come from a Pentax camera in the case of SILVER etc. Or the image is of Pentax (Samsung K mount) equipment.
There is NO need to have any knowledge of photography. There is no need to have any critical skills. There is no requirement to have any training, education etc etc
So the pompous requests for "helpful/constructive" comments and the like are just elitist tripe.
If you want more, then please go and find another forum or go to college or join a camera/photography club.
By the intolerant posts of some people (spelling, grammar, constructivity)[incl me on occasion ] we should have minimum educational requirements of at least a "C" at English GCSE (or equivalent) an LRPS or "A/B" at A level photography. Which I guess would deny 99% of the forum access including half of the hypocrites who want higher standards of English/Photography.
What helpful critique comments has the OP made for others on the forum? Zero. I like nothing better than people who leade from the front.
Comment by Don posted on Photo Critique at 16/07/2011 - 11:38
Ricoh isn't a good name for a camera. Ricoh is the name of a tall dark, greasy guy in a polyester lounge suit making awkward, sleazy come-ons to every woman in sight at an airport bar.
"Allo dere, Ma name is R-R-R-Ricoh, and zoo lookin' shexchy tonite"
"Allo dere, Ma name is R-R-R-Ricoh, and zoo lookin' shexchy tonite"
Comment by Don posted on Pentax/Ricoh forums ? at 16/07/2011 - 11:27
I tend to be conservative with how much I'll offer in terms of praise. I tend to refrain from judging to often or too in depth. every now and then I see something or someone that could use a little constructive criticism. If there are multiple points already addressed, I seldom bother repeating those, just try to add a little bit if I can.
So in the forums, as in parenting, I do not heap on the praise for mundane tasks to the point that a person is so used to being praised, they can't differentiate between average or exceptional accomplishments. I do not criticize to the point that a person feels they cannot do anything right. But when I do offer praise or criticism, I hope it is listened to and believed, and above all else, helpful.
Plus on top of all that I do love to laugh and joke around a lot.... so at least people can tell when I'm serious.
So in the forums, as in parenting, I do not heap on the praise for mundane tasks to the point that a person is so used to being praised, they can't differentiate between average or exceptional accomplishments. I do not criticize to the point that a person feels they cannot do anything right. But when I do offer praise or criticism, I hope it is listened to and believed, and above all else, helpful.
Plus on top of all that I do love to laugh and joke around a lot.... so at least people can tell when I'm serious.
Comment by Don posted on Photo Critique at 16/07/2011 - 11:17
You don't have to post your professional work, though. You must take some nice shots of your boy, family, friends, which are in a similar vein to your commercial work? Or perhaps you hang up the camera at the end of the working day and do something entirely different for a hobby... beekeeping, or cagefighting perhaps?