2 examples, not the best of examples but you might see what I mean.
Will have to follow through to flickr to magnify the shots.


_IMG3160ed2sm by dr.shutter, on Flickr


_IMG3197ed2sm by dr.shutter, on Flickr

Not as easy a question to answer as it would first appear.
Most of my proper macro shooting is done with flash, so to be honest I am not really concerned about shake while using flash, as I think my technique is giving me pretty decent results, or at least results that I am happy with.
Although I have wondered about the question for a while, I just added the amount of ext to the fl of the lens, and in the case of the bellows, I just picked a mid point and used that, and that has worked for me, up till now.

This has cropped up from using tubes without flash, trying to preserve the natural light and shade, flash isnt an option for me, at least not without getting into a setup that just becomes off putting.

So just to clarify, no flash being used, although the answer, whatever it is, should be the same.

Cheers guys,
Bill, I'd love to see that if you do ever get around to posting it.
ICM is a technique that I have yet to dip my toe in to.

I do a fair bit of macro shooting, using mostly bellows of late, but also with ext tubes.
My question is, what focal length should be input for the SR to function correctly.
So, for example, if using 50mm of tubes, should the focal length just be increased by 50mm or is there a different formula because of the magnification factor ?
Bellows then produce a different dilemma as it has varying degrees of extension.
Is it a case of trial and error, whatever works for you or is there an actual system for working it out ???
Any thoughts

Great info and great set.
The framing on 4 is perfect.
Good shooting

What fantastic graduation of colour.
Love it.

As ever Bill, your ability to see and frame what appears to be mundane and somehow capture more amazes me.
Had I seen no 3 I would have looked for a way to get around the bars and missed the point entirely.
Cracking set
If I had to choose it would be 3, 10, 1, 4 and 5 in that order. 👏👏👏

Exactly that. 👏👏👏

I've only had 2 ltd's
The 15mm and the 20-40mm
Both excellent for what they are.
But seeing as you mentioned it I'd take the
16-85mm if it was a choice from those 3.
I have no experience of the other ltd's

How cute is that.
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