Using ext tubes
It has been discussed before that SR may not work so well for macro lenses as for others, so maybe the old fashioned techniques of high shutter speed (above the equivalent focal length of the lens), a tripod, or flash - plus turning off SR may work out better
I'll watch for suggestions/answers to this one
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https://www.flickr.com/photos/189482630@N03/
It's probably related more to magnification than actual length. Similar to Electronic First Shutter Curtain or EFSC which is worse at high magnifications.
http://www.robertotoole.com/blog/2014/01/28/electronic-first-shutter-curtain
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Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff
Algi
I've found that any blur caused by shake is more likely to be "fore & aft", rendering the image out of focus, rather than "shaken".
Roger
Most of my proper macro shooting is done with flash, so to be honest I am not really concerned about shake while using flash, as I think my technique is giving me pretty decent results, or at least results that I am happy with.
Although I have wondered about the question for a while, I just added the amount of ext to the fl of the lens, and in the case of the bellows, I just picked a mid point and used that, and that has worked for me, up till now.
This has cropped up from using tubes without flash, trying to preserve the natural light and shade, flash isnt an option for me, at least not without getting into a setup that just becomes off putting.
So just to clarify, no flash being used, although the answer, whatever it is, should be the same.
Will have to follow through to flickr to magnify the shots.
_IMG3160ed2sm by dr.shutter, on Flickr
_IMG3197ed2sm by dr.shutter, on Flickr
If you can get 1/200th only tests will tell if it's providing any benefit.
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Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff
Algi
I kind of guessed that it didn't really matter at really high shutter speeds. But figured that it should even at 1/300th ish.
I'm learning already 😁
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Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff
Algi
On second thoughts using the 1/f rule anything up to 200mm would be sharp at 1/200th so no need to test. Improvement would be minimal and you shouldn't get any shake.
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should that be 1/(fx1.5) if it's a Pentax aps-c camera
https://pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/barrieforbes
https://www.flickr.com/photos/189482630@N03/
Mmm will try again tomorrow morning if conditions are similar.
However the question still remains around what the fl should be for Sr to work correctly
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e.g.
1/100 + 1/100 = 2/100 = 1/50
1/150 + 1/50 = 2/100 = 1/50
i.e. if you add to the distance between the lens and the sensor you reduce the distance between the lens and the object by the same amount.
https://pentaxphotogallery.com/artists/barrieforbes
https://www.flickr.com/photos/189482630@N03/
On second thoughts using the 1/f rule anything up to 200mm would be sharp at 1/200th so no need to test. Improvement would be minimal and you shouldn't get any shake.
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should that be 1/(fx1.5) if it's a Pentax aps-c camera
Derek is using a K-1, but to be exact with APS-C the 1.5 factor should be included, but being a rule of thumb and people's own vibrations being different 1/f should be OK. Magnification of the final image also matters.
In all the testing I've seen they alter the FL of the lens so that they can compare different formats so 200mm APS-C would be recorded as a 133mm/130mm
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Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff
Algi
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My question is, what focal length should be input for the SR to function correctly.
So, for example, if using 50mm of tubes, should the focal length just be increased by 50mm or is there a different formula because of the magnification factor ?
Bellows then produce a different dilemma as it has varying degrees of extension.
Is it a case of trial and error, whatever works for you or is there an actual system for working it out ???
Any thoughts